Edit: obligatory explanation (thanks mods for squaring me away)…

What you see via the UI isn’t “all that exists”. Unlike Reddit, where everything is a black box, there are a lot more eyeballs who can see “under the hood”. Any instance admin, proper or rogue, gets a ton of information that users won’t normally see. The attached example demonstrates that while users will only see upvote/downvote tallies, admins can see who actually performed those actions.

Edit: Obligatory RIP my inbox.

  • consumer451@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    What about IP addresses? I see those are logged. Are they available to query?

    I would imagine so, right?

    If so, ummmmmmmm. That is not ok.

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      1 year ago

      Umm, anything you access on the Internet has to know your IP address, that’s how the Internet works. Whether or not they choose to keep the logs is a different matter.

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      1 year ago

      IP Adresse does not really matter. It changes every day or whenever I restart the router.

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        1 year ago

        It depends on the ISP, country etc

        I’m in France and almost every time our IP changes it’s because my parents changed our internet subscription, or because moved to another place

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            1 year ago

            It’s probably bad for privacy, but it makes self hosting super easy

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        1 year ago

        Your public IP stays the same for long periods of time, is geographically tied, and also associates you to certain ISPs based on your address space. How long does it stay the same? Months - Years potentially depending on the lease set on the IP.

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          1 year ago

          Well… not in Germany. Here you have to request a static ip

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      1 year ago

      every website logs ip. The question is whether the admin maintains those logs. However a web server needs your IP so they can route traffic back to you. That IP gets logged so that if something is not working the admin can review the logs and figure out what is going on. Many websites that are privacy focused either turn the logging off or dump the logs fairly quickly. Doing something like that means the admin needs to take steps to create other avenues for troubleshooting that don’t factor user data into the scenario. With smaller projects like instances hosted on lemmy that might not always be feasible for volunteer admins. This doesn’t necessarily mean they are doing anything wrong. Lots of websites maintain logs that include IP addresses.