President Joe Biden is visiting Israel on Wednesday as the deadly Gaza hospital blast fuels protests. NBC News is providing live updates.
Palestinian defense force scrambling to find new ways to blame Israel anyways
“We were about to launch peace offering rocket, when infidel occupiers shined mirror in our eyes! Admiral Ackbar!”
Yeah, and Shireen Abu Akleh was murdered by Palestinians too. This play is old.
I don’t trust any “news” about this conflict that comes from the US or Israel.
Or Hamas for that matter. After the hospital was blown up, a cease fire should have started. Now it’s just going to escalate and escalate. US is already saying we’ll get involved if Hezbollah makes a move. It’s like WW1 all over again.
I think it’s fair to say that neither side should be trusted at face value. The IDF refusing to allow an independent ballistics investigation was shameful and I’ll openly say that.
I am not sure the people who were in that hospital care that much. Both Israel and Hamas share blame in this situation no matter who’s rocket it was.
You know these people wouldn’t die if Hamas wouldn’t start a suprise attack on 7th? Or if it’s wouldn’t fire rockets at Israel?
You know these people wouldn’t die if the Israeli government hadn’t encroached on their homeland decades ago, segregated them, and subject them to a slow genocide?
Everyone sucks here. Anyone taking a “side” is a piece of shit, because both “sides” are pieces of shit. Fuck Bibi and his cronies. Fuck Hamas just as hard.
what about the Palestinians destroying relations with Jordan and Egypt by attempting numerous coups and assassinating the king?
If your sentence starts with “What about…” the answer is always the same: Fucking irrelevant to the conversation.
Oh, okay then…
Bye-bye Palestine oppression lmao, Israel is entirely justified because the past doesn’t matter!
I find it difficult to believe that the area isn’t so blanketed in various radar signals that they don’t have pretty exact tracking on what happened. Counterbattery radar has been a thing for decades now.
I get the intel sources and methods thing, but I can’t understand why Israel wouldn’t go farther than just making a statement to the press, given the optics on this.
I mean, what do you really want them to do?
Anything that they release will just be dismissed as fake by people who have already made up their minds
They’ve said they weren’t conducting operations there. They released radio intercepts of Hamas fighters describing it as a misfire. Photographs of the site look nothing like the blast site of Israel’s bombs. We know there was a volley of rockets launched around the same time. We have video of one apparently malfunctioning in the air shortly before a ground explosion. We know that Gazan rockets routinely misfire and cause civilian casualties.
Meanwhile, Hamas supplied no evidence, and said that they’d essentially flattened a hospital with a bomb killing 500. In reality, there was a small explosion in a parking lot, the hospital is still standing, and it seems to have been perhaps a few dozen causalities. Shockingly, the terrorist group seems to have little journalistic integrity.
I think it’ll take longer for us to get definitive proof, but the evidence we have points pretty much in one direction.
Also, if Israel really had wanted to destroy the hospital, it wouldn’t still be standing. You can’t really reconcile Israel is a monster that destroys hospitals for no reason with the fact that all we can see is a scorched parking lot.
“misfire”
Here is a NBC journalist itself questioning the claim that it was a misfire by a Palestinian group https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vy0iIj2iNNY
I’m not going to go full conspiracy theorist because ultimately I gain nothing from that, but given the track record of the US and Israel I have absolutely no faith in either side’s report on this.
Same. No assessment done by either of the countries in this issue can be called ‘independent’ or ‘neutral’. And there have been many instances of Israel bombing civilian and aid buildings in the past.
There have also been many instances of Hamas and PIJ rockets accidentally landing in Gaza.
I agree that no assessment will be neutral, but facts can be judged independently, and at least in my eyes, the picture being painted is pretty clear.
