If I choose to drive on anything except the freeway, I get told the road is closed, drive it anyway (the road is, after all, not closed) and spend the entire journey with a mapless screen. Great 4G+ reception the whole way. Happens all over NSW. Weird.

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    Don’t use Apple Maps. Use Google Maps. It gets it right far more often. I still haven’t forgiven Apple for sending me on a Sydney motorway toll road loop. I know Apple Maps looks better, but that’s useless if the directions aren’t reliable.

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      Google Maps, not shown, had exactly the same problem. It repeatedly told me to turn around and tried to direct me onto a freeway (out of my way, but theoretically a possible route, I guess) and then it told me the road was closed, then got lost and decided we were nowhere. We still had coverage, and the downloaded map remained, but we weren’t on it.

      Google maps does not know Newcastle, incidentally. It has repeatedly sent me on circular loops around my destination in Newie, and insists the tip has an entrance that doesn’t exist, among many other inconvenient wild goose chases. It’s fun to use, but gets massively unreliable outside Sydney. I cannot trust it, so I have both and check both when starting out.

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        Hmm have you tried moving to an area that isnt a grey, flat void?

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          Hey, don’t discount the lovely view provided by Repeating Grid!

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      Always brings me back to Yahoo Serious’s movies. I think it was Young Einstein that had that song in the intro.

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      The maps were downloaded, I could read them and did, but moving or parked, the gps insisted I was at best “on a road that is closed”, and at worst tried to find me in the world. Not shown: Same problem with google maps, which also insisted that we weren’t on any road.

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          For over 100 km? probably not. This wasn’t a moment in time, it was the entire length, until we got on a more well known highway. At which point we “teleported” there I guess. It was all very weird.

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    If you were interested in trying another app, I love Waze and find its directions and navigation far superior to Google Maps (even though it’s owned by Google, go figure).

    If you don’t mind trying a map app based on OSM, try Magic Earth. It has really good navigation for driving and you can even download large maps offline for a fraction of the storage it would take using Google or Apple.

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      Google bought Waze just to keep it out of anyone else’s hands. They’ve mostly ignored it after that.

      They have integrated some of the crowd reporting stuff over to Maps. But that’s it.

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    download maps for offline use with osmand

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      Didn’t need to. I never got disconnected from the internet, only a 300km jaunt through rural NSW for the day.

      The maps companies just insisted I was flying or something. They were lost, I wasn’t.

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    Does it happen if you just use maps on the iPhone as normal instead of though car play? What iPhone are you using?

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      An X, and I have no trouble with it on city roads, I think it just has started doubting rural ones. Not shown is Google Maps doing exactly the same thing. I had downloaded maps, I didn’t need to, we were close enough to civilisation to have reception, but the gps insisted the road wasn’t there.

      More and more rural roads seem to be dropping off the gps over the last six months.

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    Isn’t that a standard feature of Crapple CarPlay?

    Edit: oh no, I’ve upset the fanboys, praise be to expensive inferior technology!

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      No, not for years. Except that it seems to be decaying over the last few months.

      Not shown is the same argument I was having with Google Maps. Both insisted the road either wasn’t there, or was closed, which hasn’t been the case for the last forty years that I have used it.

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        This might be a very rare case if you’ve had the issue with different providers.

        I 4x4 a lot, in regional NSW, and find that my pre-loaded Google maps show almost every single trail we’re on vs my friends with Apple or factory maps.

        Either way, my comment was just tongue in cheek, do you remember the stories of Apple Map directing people into the ocean? 🤣

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          Yeah, I had all the maps, and the connection, I wasn’t lost, just the GPS was lost. I don’t 4X4, I’m just rural.

          Yeah, there was a website called “TomTom is trying to kill me” many years ago, no idea if it still exists but I guess I should go look it up!

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        I’ve found apple maps to be consistently shit, usually very outdated, and just not get much right ever anytime somebody I’ve been with has insisted on using it. Maybe if you exclusively live in a well populated city and never go to the countryside, it could be okay, but as soon as you go even slightly out of the major metro areas it starts to breakdown

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          Different people will have different experiences in different locations.

          In some locations Apple Maps is better, sometimes Google Maps is better, sometimes you have to resort to using Factory GPS (which is always terrible) and sometimes (Shock! Horror!) you have to navigate using road signs, your eyes and local knowledge.

          That said, sometimes I wonder if an OSM navigation system would be much better. At least both Google and Apple allow you to provide feedback when something is wrong with their maps.

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            In newcastle I have generally found Google Maps innaccurate at best, adding massive legs to short trips at worst. Apple maps hasn’t sent me on doglegs yet in Newie.

            Rurally, they’re both bad, but useable. But over the last year they have both got a lot worse.

            I miss my NSW UBD paper book, frankly.

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    The problem is that you’re listening to icehouse, a cheesy 80s band which tends to stuff up CarPlay and brick head units. Now drop that tucker mate, grab ya Shiela and get out beyond the black stump with some classic Queen or Aerosmith.