The woman, 75, […] had grown weary of having to maintain her sons, 40 and 42, and on several occasions tried to convince them to find a more autonomous living arrangement, especially as each had a job. […] The mother was also annoyed that her sons did not contribute to the household expenses or chores
if they never have had to do chores as kids, how can you expect them to start at 40?
Because they are 40 goddamn years old, that’s how. Sure, you can blame your parents for your upbringing. But at a certain point, you need to start taking responsibility for that shit. Your parents can’t fix you at 40, only you can do that. And if you can’t figure that out, that’s on you. Not your parents.
There comes a time you grow the fuck up and take responsibility for your own life.
Exactly, at 40 you can google how to do any chore. I was doing chores at a very early age and enjoyed the sense of contributing to the household and the independence.
I agree that you should take responsibility for your own life sometimes after you become an adult latest in like the 20s.
In this case the mother have done all the chores for 40 years, like what was expected of a woman 100-200 years ago, and I’m sure part of it is she still see them as her boys, it just took her 20 years to reach her limit.
My 7 year old knows how to find a youtube video… watch it… and do it herself. A 40 year old should be more than capable unless mentally handicapped. Also learning things by observation is a thing too… Are we to believe that in the 40 years of their life, they’ve NEVER seens how mom loads the dishwasher?
If they were in their 40’s, have jobs, but were still not even helping out around the house, I kind of doubt they’d be stepping up to the plate to help out anytime soon.
It’s much more likely to be like this article. She deserves a chance to live her own life, not be a cook, maid, housekeeper, laundress, personal shopper and bank for her fully-grown sons. … Oh, sorry, wait, I misspelt leeches.
It’s her fault these people exist in the first place. The entitlement of parents that kick out their children when they aren’t convenient anymore is astonishing.
Edit: Downvoted by entitled parents who never thought about what it means to yank an existence out of the void and put it in the meat cage and just had kids cause “thats what you do” yiiiikes
You don’t know the circumstances under which she had kids. I understand your point that they didn’t ask to be born, but if that’s the case are they just going to be bitter freeloaders to punish her?
I legit went from “hmm I disagree, but understand where he’s coming from” to “this guy is deluded and crazy”.
Property prices are super high everywhere right now and it’s easy to understand how some people want to live rent free whilst earning so they can enjoy extravagant lifestyles.
But at 40, they’re pushing it too far, to force their 70+ y.o. mother to carry them while they offer nothing in return.
IMO letting them chill for 40 years rent free is more than enough payment for ‘being born’. If they weren’t earning or were disabled etc and needed care etc then it would’ve been fine, but they’re legit deadbeat freeloaders who won’t bat an eyelid if their mom died.
If they haven’t got a place to live, tough. They’ll learn the hard way. 40 years is plenty of time to have figured it out.
To punish her? They didn’t ask to exist, now they do. Why should they have any responsibility?
She’s 75, she’ll likely be passing away soon. If you’ve absolved these two middle aged men from responsibility, who do you expect will provide for them after her passing? Are you opening YOUR wallet to do so?
These are grown adults in their 40s. You really think the mom should just forever be their maid? Even at the age of 75?
At some point they just have to take responsibility for themselves. Even if they have to, or want to live at home, they should absolutely be contributing if they are able bodied.
Yeah, I’d be really pissed as well.
The woman was 75 yo and will be probably needing assistance soon, she’ll regret that decision bitterly.
Given they didn’t do any household tasks at 40 you really think they’d step up?
It could be she made a mistake during their upbringing, if they never have had to do chores as kids, how can you expect them to start at 40?
I’m not sure about the boys doing chores culture in Italy?
My parents would have kicked me out instantly if I lived at home, had a job and didn’t contribute and help with chores.
Because they are 40 goddamn years old, that’s how. Sure, you can blame your parents for your upbringing. But at a certain point, you need to start taking responsibility for that shit. Your parents can’t fix you at 40, only you can do that. And if you can’t figure that out, that’s on you. Not your parents.
There comes a time you grow the fuck up and take responsibility for your own life.
Exactly, at 40 you can google how to do any chore. I was doing chores at a very early age and enjoyed the sense of contributing to the household and the independence.
I agree that you should take responsibility for your own life sometimes after you become an adult latest in like the 20s.
In this case the mother have done all the chores for 40 years, like what was expected of a woman 100-200 years ago, and I’m sure part of it is she still see them as her boys, it just took her 20 years to reach her limit.
Let’s be honest, it’s pretty easy to learn that stuff.
Making your 75 year old mum do it is frankly disgusting.
If you somehow think I am on the side of the two sons you are mistaken.
And let’s be even more honest and use our common sense, there’s some parents that don’t let their kids do chores, and how should they then learn?
If she always have done all chores and never been tough on them, they have been taught to expect she does all the chores and all the shopping.
I think a 40 year old should be able to figure it out pretty easily.
You don’t need a degree to use a mop or a washing machine.
My 7 year old knows how to find a youtube video… watch it… and do it herself. A 40 year old should be more than capable unless mentally handicapped. Also learning things by observation is a thing too… Are we to believe that in the 40 years of their life, they’ve NEVER seens how mom loads the dishwasher?
If they were in their 40’s, have jobs, but were still not even helping out around the house, I kind of doubt they’d be stepping up to the plate to help out anytime soon.
It’s much more likely to be like this article. She deserves a chance to live her own life, not be a cook, maid, housekeeper, laundress, personal shopper and bank for her fully-grown sons. … Oh, sorry, wait, I misspelt leeches.
That woman always was on her own, even with the leeches living next room.
Ew I stepped in shit
It’s her fault these people exist in the first place. The entitlement of parents that kick out their children when they aren’t convenient anymore is astonishing.
Edit: Downvoted by entitled parents who never thought about what it means to yank an existence out of the void and put it in the meat cage and just had kids cause “thats what you do” yiiiikes
Are your parents pressuring you to move out of their basement? Your seemed to take this article personally.
My parents were too poor to ever own a house. Check your privilege.
Does it upset you that they are kicking you out of their shanty?
Grow up bud
Dude, you’re 40. Move out.
You don’t know the circumstances under which she had kids. I understand your point that they didn’t ask to be born, but if that’s the case are they just going to be bitter freeloaders to punish her?
To punish her? They didn’t ask to exist, now they do. Why should they have any responsibility?
Because they are grown men with the capacity to be self sufficient?
It’s not the parents who are entitled, here.
I legit went from “hmm I disagree, but understand where he’s coming from” to “this guy is deluded and crazy”.
Property prices are super high everywhere right now and it’s easy to understand how some people want to live rent free whilst earning so they can enjoy extravagant lifestyles.
But at 40, they’re pushing it too far, to force their 70+ y.o. mother to carry them while they offer nothing in return.
IMO letting them chill for 40 years rent free is more than enough payment for ‘being born’. If they weren’t earning or were disabled etc and needed care etc then it would’ve been fine, but they’re legit deadbeat freeloaders who won’t bat an eyelid if their mom died.
If they haven’t got a place to live, tough. They’ll learn the hard way. 40 years is plenty of time to have figured it out.
You realize the same logic applies for her right? She didn’t ask to be here… why does she have to take care of ungrateful sons?
She’s 75, she’ll likely be passing away soon. If you’ve absolved these two middle aged men from responsibility, who do you expect will provide for them after her passing? Are you opening YOUR wallet to do so?
Not a parent, just fuck your ignorant entitled ass. Stupid selfish prick.
Ah yes the entitlement of NOT having children LOL
These are grown adults in their 40s. You really think the mom should just forever be their maid? Even at the age of 75?
At some point they just have to take responsibility for themselves. Even if they have to, or want to live at home, they should absolutely be contributing if they are able bodied.
Uh… you realize that they weren’t convenient… well… EVER.
I’m not an entitled parent. I’m a guy who moved out of my parents’ house at 23.