• mindbleach
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        Where’d these problem guns come from? The moon? Did a genie pop them into existence? No, genius, they started as somebody’s legal toys and then we lost track of them because we do goddamn near nothing to track them. Stolen, gifted, lost, borrowed, whatever.

        You are in this very thread, arguing that gun control is pointless because there’s too many guns. You are why there’s too many guns.

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      And what’s your plan? The 2A exists and the courts have always upheld it. Another amendment is NOT going to happen in this political climate.

      Your turn.

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        Kennedy and then Reagan combined to undermine the old mental hospital system. We’d be better off to expand the “gravely disabled” definition, expand conservatorship, and involuntarily commit at a rate resembling what they used to do in the 1960s. I’d rather revert to that and force severely ill people to get help than to quibble about which rights to strip from the general populace.

        Gun controllers need to realize there are 300 to 400 million semi-auto guns in the US (and that’s a conservative estimate). You could ban them tomorrow and you’d still never get rid of them, not in the next century.

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          Damn. Can’t be done in this era. Imagine getting conservatives onboard with committing nut cases and paying for it.

          Gun controllers need to realize there are 300 to 400 million semi-auto guns in the US

          Yep. Largest mass-shooting headcount in the US, Virginia Tech. And the majority of kills were with a .22 pistol, the last thing we’ll ban. We’re all fucked up.

          Liberals: “We need red flag laws!”

          Sure do. OTOH, you trust the cops to roll on a call to a house with a man reported to “be armed and dangerous”? Any of you guys heard the term “swatting”?

          “Not like THAT! You could literally execute your neighbor making that call!”

          I know. Maybe some gun laws (pick your poison) where current and former LE aren’t excepted? Because liberal legislation ALWAYS excepts the cops, even former cops.

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        Sensible gun control exists in several US states and those tend to have far lower rates of gun crime.

        Your turn.

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        “There’s no solution, neener neener” is one fuck on an argument.

        Especially when conservative bastard judges pounding the table about an absolutist reading means no licensing, no tracking, no studies, no nothing. You don’t want the problem solved. You don’t want us to even try.