• mamotromico@lemmy.ml
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    Nazis were “debatably” conservative my ass, fucking sad that this filth is already spreading on the fediverse

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      Fascism is linked to conservatism through an extreme form of it. The United States has had six Presidents whose policies and practices identify them as part of the Fascist wing of politics. William McKinley, Calvin Coolidge, Warren G. Harding, John Tyler, Ronald Reagan, and Donald Trump.

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      What did the Nazis want to conserve, exactly? They hated Christianity, they hated free-market capitalism, they wanted to wipe out half the continent and settle it with Germans, and they wanted to completely reshape every aspect of society around the state. They didn’t wanna conserve shit, except maybe the Junkers’ economic dominance.

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        Hierarchy. And reactionaries are still right wing, even if they want to recreate an imagined past of hierarchies rather than just conserving the existing ones.

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          I didn’t say they weren’t right wing, only that they weren’t conservative. Going backwards isn’t conserving anything.

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        They hated Christianity

        Every German soldier had “Got mitt uns” (God is with us) on their belt buckles.

        Most Nazis were Christians.

        The idea that the Nazis hated Christianity is silly. Some upper-echelon Nazis might have, but the overall members of the Nazi Party were Christians. Including the participants in the Holocaust. They were doing it because Martin Luther said so.

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          By this logic, the Soviet Union was a Christian nation because the vast majority of their soldiers believed in God during WW2.

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            The nazis were overwhelmingly christian tho. They even formed their own special form of it that literally just takes out the jews.

            The soviet union specifically prosecuted christians, so trying to say they were the same is wild

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              Using Christianity for propaganda reasons doesn’t change the fact that the Nazis wanted to restructure the German people’s belief system around their pseudoscientific racial theories and state-worship. Another thing to note is that the Nazis hated the Catholic Church, which about half of Germany followed, and didn’t tolerate Protestant sects which went against their ideology. Following Christianity was absolutely not a priority for the Nazis. They’d have absolutely gotten rid of it if they could.