• Ashyr
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    1 year ago

    This is a factor in why I really want kbin/mbin to succeed. I also think it has the potential to be the better platform, but only time will tell.

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      1 year ago

      I think both kinda suck, so I’m making my own that’s completely distributed instead of federated. That way hosting costs are near zero (just need some P2P nodes and a download server) and scaling to higher user counts should be automatic if I build it right.

      The problem is that building it right is hard, and I don’t have a ton of time.

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          Not yet, but I’ll definitely post something when I get to a point where I’m ready to share the code. I definitely want it to be open source, I just want enough functionality there so the long term vision is clear.

          But here’s some details of what I’m trying to achieve:

          • web of trust-based moderation - no “mods,” only metadata from people you trust (upvotes, downvotes, blocks, etc)
          • all storage on devices of users of the service - the more storage you provide, the better your experience; your preferred communities have first priority, but everyone stores something random from the service
          • text posts only, at least to start - images/videos need to be hosted elsewhere

          I’m building it initially as a desktop app, but I’ll port it later to mobile and maybe web (still trying to figure out how web would work; maybe some notion of instances?).

          I’m hoping to bridge to lemmy with an ActivityPub service to get content, but I’m not working on that until the above is ready.

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            8 months ago

            This sounds interesting, but how do you plan on stopping illegal content being stored on users devices? If there is any chance a user could unknowingly be hosting illegal content that could lead to some very big issues.

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              8 months ago

              Still working on that, but I have some ideas:

              • text only - images, videos, and other binary content must be stored elsewhere (could still have links though)
              • data is stored encrypted (user option) - wouldn’t show up in scans
              • clear separation between “stuff I’m interested in” and “random stuff I’m hosting for the network” - plausible deniability
              • perhaps an option to opt out of random data storage - you’d still store stuff you’re interested in

              But yeah, that’s a huge part of why I’m unwilling to share the code until I’m comfortable with the moderation engine. I think there’s an opportunity to use that moderation engine to reduce storage of CSAM (i.e. don’t store data from blocked users).

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            1 year ago

            Web of trust sounds interesting. What language(s) are you using to build it?

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                1 year ago

                Sounds efficient. Lmk if/ when you make the repo public.

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                  Sure thing. I’ll probably make a post about it once I nail down the functionality and start looking for people to help out with UX and features and whatnot.

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      1 year ago

      Wouldn’t a fork be easier? I have high hopes for mbin but I really can’t understand why Lemmy hasn’t been forked yet.