me and mozilla go way back, to the days of netscape navigator. we’re old friends… even through the worst of times (aol ownership), i’ve stood by my best bud.
Lol, not me! I dropped that shit when it was the slowest, most bloated memory hog! Luckily, it’s much improved now, and is easily the best browser out there…
Firebird for me.
Same
I remember back then when people stop using FF because it used more PC resources than the OS itself and all started using Chrome because it was fast and lightweight.
Joke’s on them, I never stopped using Firefox.
Mental how it is genuinely the other way around now, but on the masses people might not even know that a computer has limited resources so that’s probably a contributor to no mass exodus to FF.
The average person definitely doesn’t have a good understanding of computational resources, but they will use an application they find smoother and less clunky than another. Realistically the performance and resource usage of chrome is not going to be bad enough to drive most people to Firefox these days, and Firefox won’t be enough of an improvement for most people to notice. Chrome also had a huge marketing campaign when it launched… I suspect that was crucial for getting people to adopt chrome (otherwise how do you even get people to think about switching?), but I don’t think Mozilla has the resources for such a campaign. Time will tell, though. I hope we’ll see more people switching to Firefox in the future.
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Excessive resources usage is wasted energy.
Not necessarily. Using more RAM doesn’t increase energy usage, at least not significantly. And if you can use that to avoid making disk or network accesses, it’ll save energy. Obviously keeping the CPU spinning at 100% isn’t helping anybody, though.
If it forces you to buy more RAM, it does. I think most notebook laptops have had their RAM specified based on browser needs those past years as it became the main application by far.
That’s a good point.
I paid for the whole CPU, I’ll use the whole CPU. /s
Always has been.
As someone using Firefox for basically ever, Chrome has always seemed like bloated garbage to me. Deleted it a while back and never looked back.
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In that case, you never got to use Chrome’s first versions. Because Chrome felt 20x faster than any other browser including Firebird/Firefox. It was later that it became a bloated beast.
I had my first website tell me today that I can’t access their domain on FF. It was Adobe. Fuck em
Please report the issue at https://webcompat.com/
You’re better off without them, for sure!
Maybe changing the user agent will work
I really want to switch back but… honestly: Chromium Edge, despite a few annoying features being shoved in your face, is actually a really nice browser IMO. It’s definitely going to take some time to get used to FF again.
I’m so used to things like vertical tabs, icon only bookmarks, etc… I know I can change a lot in FF myself, but having to add custom css and whatnot on every device I use FF on is just annoying.
Use the sidebery add-on, along with a vertical Firefox CSS theme = problem solved.
There are tons of extensions for tab management for Firefox. If vertkcal tabs is just that they’re arranged in lines instead of columns, I’ve used Tree Style Tab and Sidebery, and there are many others.
you can pry the vivaldi tab management out of my cold dead hands
I do not know Vivaldi, but I live and die by Tree-Style Tabs. It puts the tabs on the side and arranged them in trees that can be managed as groups. It’s the add-on that has kept me on Firefox.
Same. Treestyle Tabs and wide-screen are the perfect couple.
For me it’s the killer app of Firefox. Chrome actually has a tree style tab but it functions different and sucks.
I just don’t want to use the internet if I can’t use tree style tab. It’s so much better than default tabs.
I’m not sure if the entire functionality can really be replicated, but Firefox does have a pretty good add-on selection, maybe you can find one that suits your needs.
Because this is not the first time I’ve heard about Vivaldi tab management, I looked over a couple videos and it really seems impressive, props to them for doing something really cool in this department. However I know myself, and I’d use maybe half the features that are present, most likely even less. If this is also true for you, I’m almost sure a Firefox add-on could be a suitable replacement:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tab-manager-plus-for-firefox/
https://addons.mozilla.org/blog/too-many-open-tabs-extensions-to-the-rescue/
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/sidebery/
At the end of the day you obviously don’t need to switch if you don’t want to, I would just be really amazed if it turned out the main tab mgmt features from Vivaldi were never added to an add-on.
Amen brother.
Firefox is King 👑
I love this meme! Haha
Friendship regain?! I cant believe!
Librewolf is pretty decent too
So actually, Mudasir it is the other guy
Been using Firefox on desktop since it was called Firebird. I’ve jumped to different browsers on mobile, but Firefox on mobile has gotten a lot better since the last time I’ve tried it years ago, so I switched back to it recently.
Firefox on mobile has gotten a lot better since the last time I’ve tried it years ago
This is 100% worth repeating. FF Mobile was borderline unusable ten years ago compared to Safari/Chrome mobile
I remember my baseline was youtube back then. If the interface looked terrible, I wasn’t ready to switch. Then it started working as expected and the rest is history.
Just so that I can keep track of the score, I actually moved from Firefox to DuckDuckGo, because Firefox was considered not respecting privacy. This was not so many years ago.
Are we now saying today that the tables are turned? Or just that both are bad, but one is less bad?
Everything > Chrome/Chromium
The reality is that to the average user all browsers are the same. A lot of technologies have sort of peaked for regular people and browsers are one of those. There was a time when you needed plugins to do basic things like view PDFs or videos, to play games (flash, java) and there would be a new major change to HTML or CSS every few months etc.
That’s no longer a problem. All browsers are near equal in their ability to render pages. So people are naturally going to go with what feels familiar. We lost the battle for market share the minute Google decided to advertise Chrome on their search page.
Everything > Chrome/Chromium
Today.
Previously, it was Firefox > Everything, so that’s why I was asking.
ff forks like librewolf are based
ff forks like librewolf are based
Heard good things about Librewolf.
I only keep edge around so I can Chromecast to my TV from my PC. Otherwise Firefox all the way.
Should show edge and brave in the corners
I’ve moved back to Firefox but damn it keeps mangling my streaming audio in some cases and there doesn’t seem to be a fix despite spending most of last night going through the limited solutions. Seems like this is a common problem for many Firefox users so Chrome will stay in play for some of these uses.
Previously Chrome did it all…