I don’t know why this is such a hard combo to meet, but I can’t seem to find anything that suits. I assume there’s enterprise gear that would meet these points, but I’m not sure where to start.

POE is for running a half dozen POE cameras, 3x WIFI6 WAPs, Home Assistant Yellow. I could get away with running a separate POE switch if not for the WAPs (looking at the TP-Link AX11000’s which are 10GbE). I could buy a UniFi XG 6 POE for just the WAPs and use another regular POE switch to give me enough ports, but that’s just getting messy.

The ideal is to have a high density 10GbE managed switch that I can use for both my regular gear and POE gear (I have 20 ports to connect out to plus gear I might run in the rack). If the Unifi XG Enterprise had POE it would be perfect.

  • @[email protected]B
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    210 months ago

    Brocade 6610-48p can be had for about $60 + shipping on eBay

    • 8 10g SFP+ ports
    • 4 40g QSFP ports (2 of those can be broken out into an additional 8 10g SFP+ ports for 16 10g ports in total)
    • 48 1g PoE+ ports

    They are EOL and server the home has provided all the firmware and licensing for them for free.

    • @[email protected]OPB
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      110 months ago

      Do they even make PoE+ injectors that support 10GbE? If they do realistically I can just go with my original plan of the Ubiquiti XG Enterprise or something like that (tho I do also have concerns about their gear failing immediately out of warranty based on some anecdotal experiences some of my coworkers/friends have had)

    • @[email protected]B
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      110 months ago

      $370 (Australian dollars) + another $370 aud shipping… sigh, and that’s the cheapest…

    • @[email protected]B
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      010 months ago

      Way too loud if you don’t butcher it and do a fan mod. Those are datacenter switches. Got mine yesterday as a core for smaller lan parties. Great hardware, very solid and I love it. Especially for the price of around 200 bucks with two psus and one additional fan. But it never will run in my house for regular operation. The 6450s on the other hand …

      • @[email protected]B
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        110 months ago

        Mine is pretty darn quiet 🤷‍♂️

        Actually it’s quieter than my hp procurve and my Plex server.

        You’ll want to make sure the 6610 is flashed, configured and running both power supplies. Out of the box it runs at max speed without configuration and if it’s missing a PSU it will max the PSU fan to keep the internals cool.

        • @[email protected]B
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          110 months ago

          Strange. Running it exactly like that. Any ressource for tweaking with the fan config?

          • @[email protected]B
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            110 months ago

            Run “dm fan”

            Here’s mine

            • FRU 1 Fan 1 Speed at 5793 RPM.
            • FRU 1 Fan 2 Speed at 6553 RPM.
            • FRU 2 Fan 1 Speed at 5844 RPM.
            • FRU 2 Fan 2 Speed at 6192 RPM

            As well as “show chassis”

            Here’s mine as well

            • The stack unit 1 chassis info:

            • Power supply 1 (AC - PoE) present, status ok

            • Model Number: 23-0000142-02

            • Serial Number: 9FK

            • Firmware Ver: A

            • Power supply 1 Fan Air Flow Direction: Front to Back

            • Power supply 2 (AC - PoE) present, status ok

            • Model Number: 23-0000142-02

            • Serial Number: 91G

            • Firmware Ver: A

            • Power supply 2 Fan Air Flow Direction: Front to Back

            • Fan 1 ok, speed (auto): [[1]]<->2

            • Fan 2 ok, speed (auto): [[1]]<->2

            • Fan controlled temperature: 61.5 deg-C

            • Fan speed switching temperature thresholds:

            • Speed 1: NM<----->76 deg-C

            • Speed 2: 71<-----> 80 deg-C (shutdown)

            • Fan 1 Air Flow Direction: Front to Back

            • Fan 2 Air Flow Direction: Front to Back

            • MAC 1 Temperature Readings:

            • Current temperature : 49.0 deg-C

            • MAC 2 Temperature Readings:

            • Current temperature : 56.5 deg-C

            • CPU Temperature Readings:

            • Current temperature : 61.5 deg-C

            • sensor A Temperature Readings:

            • Current temperature : 50.5 deg-C

            • sensor B Temperature Readings:

            • Current temperature : 53.5 deg-C

            • sensor C Temperature Readings:

            • Current temperature : 39.5 deg-C

            • stacking card Temperature Readings:

            • Current temperature : 53.5 deg-C

            • Warning level…: 77.0 deg-C

            • Shutdown level…: 80.0 deg-C

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    110 months ago

    Are you requiring a 10Gbe Rj45 switch with PoE? If so, tough call, even for used market. Otherwise, Cisco, Juniper, Aruba, HPE, etc. all have options for you.

    • @[email protected]OPB
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      110 months ago

      Are you requiring a 10Gbe Rj45 switch with PoE? If so, tough call, even for used market.

      This yeah, ideally with at least enough 10GbE copper ports that can do PoE for the WAPs (though more would be good, the house I’m going to end up running them in is being built atm and it’d be nice to have 10GbE available at workstations/etc. I made sure the spec for the house would be fine for 10GbE over copper all over. (Plus a sneaky draw through wire for fibre between the comms rack under the stairs and the 8 car shed at the back of the property that will have my louder gear.)

      I know I could always just do 3 switches, 1 x Ubiquiti XG Enterprise (for my regular gear), 1x Ubiquiti XG 6 (for PoE 10GbE copper WIFI6 WAPs) and 1 x regular PoE switch for all the gear that will be 1GbE like the cameras and home assistant yellow/etc but it’s a lot messier than I’d like.

    • @RvTV95XBeo
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      LOL @ MSRP $18k. Hope OP is made of gold.

      For OP, you may want to consider your 6-port approach, not much sense in putting cameras and a Raspberry Pi on a 10G switch unless you’ve just won the lottery and aren’t telling us. Otherwise that’s just a lot of commitment for “pretty”.

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    010 months ago

    Aruba s2500 worked great for me, when mine died I changed to a brocade icx6610.

    I will say the Aruba doesn’t give you full 10 gig technically but it’s very close, the brocade switch is great though as it has 8 10 gig ports, and two qsfp, one that can be broken out into an additional 8 ports.

    It’s also a lot more cable management wise, more than I could possibly need. The s2500 was used more as a dumb switch however though.

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      010 months ago

      I have a 6610-48p and it’s so underrated.

      It’s one of the cheapest overkill switches we can get right now.

      Craft computing did a video on them trashing it because they are license locked to 1G speeds where he failed to mention that serve the home made the fully upgraded license available for free.

      • @[email protected]B
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        010 months ago

        Ah yeah, forgot there is a license lock but it’s super easy to get past with some custom firmware, I went through the process in my video on the upgrade here

        Yeah, software licenses locking hardware stuff is dumb, but when it’s this easy to get around, eh.

        You’d think someone who actually gets views on YouTube and makes a good amount of money from it would have covered that part…

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    010 months ago

    You know Cisco/Arista CLI or open to learn?

    They have some used Arista DC switches on Ebay that have 10G. For me one for $200.