my 13600k reach 125watts (vcore 1.077v) without any issue/ performance loss,.

and this 125-130watts is max powerdraw in cbr23,. if i play games its take 30-55watts ,. some cases 75watts (like cyberpunk),.

full performance with 125-130watts - 24200 cbr23 score;
reduced performance with 95watts - 22800 cbr23 score https://imgur.com/a/owNYMrO (i use both hwinfo and hwmonitor :) );

this 95watts is power limit over 125watts undervolt; so its not affect gaming performance and gaming power draws.

13600k & 14600k owners, what is your idle and/or low workload power consumption?

i undervolted my 13600k,. without performance loss,.
idle power - 2.5watts ;
few chrome (currently using) - 4-10watts ;
max powerdraw in cbr23 - 125-128watts (from ~180watts);
low workload (10 chrome tab+ background download+ watching movie+ recording+ spotify -20 min avg https://imgur.com/a/GFVmZ9i 22watts) - 22watts

some gaming- mostly below 50watts,.
https://imgur.com/a/KGMtTjO ; https://imgur.com/a/RytZQSQ ; https://imgur.com/a/uZIv3RS

i think both special editions,.
k - unlocked
s - special edition
f - no igpu
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/processors/processor-numbers.html#:~:text=S,Special%20edition

i tried,. and its bad,.

if you want to switch off E-cores > use only BIOS (not process lasso or coredirector or taskmanager)

if you dont like to disable e-cores > use heterogeneous policy 0 in powerplan,.

only 25c idle temp,. :o nice ; in my area 37-41c idle; eventhough i use 1core with 1ghz speed xd,.
what system/SSD/Harddisk/GPU temp in idle?

heterogeneous policy 0 with e-cores , or disabling e-cores gives better performance (1%lows),.
im using 1st ,. and its good with every games

HT not working (HT on in BIOS) + E cores on = gives worst case,.

So, APO was utilizing an e-core from every e-core group, which enables cpu to reach a bigger cache, which leads an effect like AMDs 3d cache. It’s awesome. Has anyone tried to do this manually for 13th gen?

like in my 13600k, i disable 2-4&6-8 e cores with process lasso,. (1 e core per group),.
nothing changed,. same fps (521fps) in cs2 (cpu bottlenecked/ gpu75%) ,.

until now ,. heterogeneous policy 0 with e-cores , or disabling e-cores gives better performance (1%lows),. but those not increase any fps like APO,.

48gb x 4 slots (192gb) max right?

what vcore in cinebench load?

i think you cant completely disable all p-cores ,. atleast 1 p-core have to run,.

if we assume e-core (like i5 6400 , 4 cores)
8 e cores give- single 902/ multi 6460 cbr23 score
4 p cores give- single 1722/ multi 7540 cbr23 score
1 e core give -multi 807 score ; 1 p core give - multi 1885 score;
like 1p core =2.3 e cores,.
in total,.
12cores give- single 1722/ multi 14000 cbr23 score.
(note , all values are just assumptions ,…not tested) ,. in my 13th gen cpu , 1p core =2.5 to 3 e cores,.

if you going to use win10,.

consider editing powerplan,.

>create new powerplan with balanced (base)

install “powersettingsexplorer” app ,.

change > Heterogeneous policy 4 to policy 0 ,.

you cant find issues with balanced power plan mostly ,. but this change work even more better

your 12700 have 8 p cores (16threads) and 4 e cores (4 threads),.
see graphs,. those last 4 graphs are 4 e cores,.

it mean ,. this work carry by E-Cores ,. and your p-cores carry forground works,.
if you click current task ,. that task use p-cores mostly,.
you can manually switch cores with taskmanager (set affinity) or you can use process lasso,.

personally i dont like those methods ,.
so i edited my balanced powerplan ,.heterogeneous policy 4 to heterogeneous policy 0 ,. which forcefully use all cores with hyperthreading,. and this method give best 1% and 0.1% lows in games

no,.
dont use those calculaters is not work in realtime…

firstly, are you looking for specific task ? like for single game?

if you join 14600kf + 3070 ;
in most of game (cpu use 50-70% usage and gpu usage 99%);
in some cpu intensive games (like cs2, city skyline , cyberpunk 2.0 ) (cpu use 90-100% and gpu use 40-100% depends upon the graphics settings);

when you consider bottleneck issue is ,. your cpu is not enough to use 99% of gpu in many games ,…

so considering bottleneck for this items is pointless

but im scared that the 14th gen will be too powerfull

choosing powerful cpu mostly useful , if you need that for your purpose…

(very lower cpu + higher end gpu will create most of the bottleneck issues)

and 13600k (k version) have igpu, so add some value for it then compare price (14600kf and 13600k performance are almost similar, i think)