So the sanctions are cutting into Nvidia’s profits while creating new jobs in China, and the upside to this is what exactly?

I wonder how effective these sanctions, from over the sea, can actually be when these cards are also manufactured in China, using a whole bunch of Chinese parts?

Even the parts that come from Taiwan are trivial to cross into China and vice versa as China is Taiwan’s largest trade partner.

So the thing this will mostly do is cut into Nvidia’s official business in the Chinese market, but I’d be very surprised if this is gonna have any real effect on availability in the Chinese grey market.

How about we settle for a 5900X3D?

How about a 5900X3D? We got a sneak peek at engineering samples of that, only for it never to be seen again.

I’m stuck on a 5800X I only got as a last resort because 5900X used to be super scalped back then, but neither the 5700X3D nor a 300 bucks 5800X3D upgrade are really appealing, while a 5900X3D would be a near instant sell.

I guess we never gonna see that because the 5800X3D being so great is already cannibalizing the 7 series too much.

In Germany/Austria it dropped to 280€ in September, hovered in the 300€ range in October, currently at ~320€

Pretty sure they specifically meant the 5800x without 3D, which is actually quite cheap for what it is, in Europe it goes for like half the price of the 5800x3D.

If their main use case is gaming then a 5700x3D will probably outperform a 5800x, while still costing less than a 5800x3D

the 5600x3d specifically exists as an artificial backstop to prevent 5800X3D prices from continuing to slide

How is that supposed to work when the 5600x3d is only available in the US at Microcenters?

That fringe existence doesn’t give it any relevance/impact for whole world market regions, i.e. Europe, where recently the 5800x3d went up in price, again, due to high demand.