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    Stewart is basically calling for a primary, which we already had, which was known for years ahead of time would happen, which literally anybody could run in, and yet nobody significant seemed interested in running. I voted in the primary, there was more than one person to vote for, Biden even lost his primary in American Samoa. To say there was “no primary” is a lie, and suggesting a party swap out a candidate who already won a primary, and by doing so throw out the votes of millions of Americans who participated in that primary process, is anti-democatic. Do you want people to switch parties and vote in the republican primary? Because that’s how you do it. Did the DNC learn nothing from getting caught trying to crush Bernie’s primary chances?

    You lose voters you disenfranchise, period. I don’t care how good the DNC’s legislative aims are, if my primary vote literally does not matter, why would I ever vote in their primary again?

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      We didn’t have a primary. Dean Phillips was the only real Democrat challenging Biden, he wasn’t on the ballot in half the states, and he was run out of the party for challenging the incumbent. They forced him to step down from leadership, they got someone to primary him for his house seat, and he’s now dropped out of politics.

      But let’s ignore that for a minute. The administration and the DNC also kept Biden’s decline from the public. They carefully manipulated his public appearances to make sure his mental state wasn’t fully known until he was on a debate stage with Trump. The voters were defrauded. The result of that fraud is that we are saddled with a candidate that cannot win. Demanding the DNC fix this colossal fuck-up so we have a shot of winning isn’t just fair, it’s the only reasonable course of action at this point.

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      That’s bullshit. There was not one debate, Biden didn’t even campaign, and now we know why; because the Biden campaign was deliberately obfuscating his condition until the “primary” was over. If they hadn’t lied to the voters, the primary would have actually happened and maybe looked a lot different.

      Edit: and since when has the DNC cared about the will of the voters? They clearly haven’t given two shits about that since at least '16. Why suddenly care about it now unless it’s a bad faith argument?

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      There was effectively no primary – no legitimate other candidate was on the ballot in my state – because they fed us the impression that Biden was totally fine cognitively.

      And then the debate happened. There was no realistic way anybody but Joe Biden came out of this primary, and I think that in itself is pretty anti-democratic.

      Not that any of it matters in the end, because Biden is not going to step aside and I don’t think Democrats have the power to push him to the side.

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      if my primary vote literally does not matter, why would I ever vote in their primary again?

      Exactly. When one primary candidate won in 2016, the party nominated the other candidate. Your primary vote doesn’t matter. SCOTUS even agreed with you, stating that if one doesn’t like how private organizations run their primaries then they shouldn’t participate in them.

      Why would anyone ever vote in the primary again?

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        Are you talking about Bernie? He literally got less primary votes, thats why he lost, period. I agree the DNC tried to fuck him over, but at the end of the day he got less votes and that’s all there is to it. If Bernie’s voters were as vote-happy as they were loud, he would have been the winner of the primary.

        They implemented a number of reforms after Wikileaks exposed their corrupt practices, their primary system is more fair and robust than it was in 2016. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries#Reforms_since_2016

        • @gravitas_deficiency
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          It must be noted that the same people who told me that Bernie was too old in 2016 are now telling me that Biden is fine.

          Also, that’s not even the thing that’s most concerning. The thing that’s most concerning is that Biden doesn’t appear to understand that if he loses, we probably also lose democracy. But that’s ok because he’ll have tried his goodest.

          I dunno man. That sounds a hell of a lot like malarkey to me.

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            Lol, you saying Biden will have tried his goodest here cracks me up. Only the Lord Almighty can save us from Biden.