• @ThrowawayPermanente
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    -1519 days ago

    It’s still a fare they could have charged, calling it something different doesn’t change the fact that someone has to pay to keep the trains running. Why should the taxpayer be the one on the hook? If it’s such an important service the people who use it would be willing to pay for it.

    • @[email protected]
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      1619 days ago

      Yeah!

      Why should I pay for schools, I don’t have kids? It’s not like it benefits our entire country’s future.

      Why should I pay for hospitals, I’m not sick. Not like my taxes are being used to help people who really really need it, and whose families are devastated

      I don’t have access to a railway station either, should I pay for quieter, safer roads and communities, and making life easier for my fellow citizens?

      You sound like a yank

      • @ThrowawayPermanente
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        -318 days ago

        Kids don’t have jobs and people don’t choose to get sick. People do choose to ride trains. Do you just think nobody should ever pay for anything? Haven’t we seen enough times how that works in practice?

        • @[email protected]
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          718 days ago

          Nobody chooses to ride trains except old steam trains, stuff like the Orient Express

          99% of people use trains because they need them, usually to get to work.

          You’d be about as effective an economist as Liz The Lettuce

          • TWeaK
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            218 days ago

            People absolutely do choose trains over cars, when the train is actually viable. Just because that isn’t a thing in the UK doesn’t mean it couldn’t be.

          • @ThrowawayPermanente
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            -618 days ago

            Trains are not the only way to travel. Your definition of ‘need’ is so broad as to encompass most of the economy. Organizing society on the basis of that kind of thinking has been tried and the results are invariably disastrous.

            • @[email protected]
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              218 days ago

              Calm doon Liz, western Europe organises society just like that, and there’s no need for you to gargle a billionaire’s todger about it

            • @[email protected]
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              18 days ago

              Nothing to see here folks. Just another brainwashed capitalist-dick-sucking class-traitor. He can go to the wall with the rest of them.

          • @ThrowawayPermanente
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            018 days ago

            I did read the article, I think the fine was too harsh for an honest mistake. But I wasn’t responding to the article, I was responding to someone celebrating the railways losing money because of people not paying their fares.

    • AwesomeLowlander
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      419 days ago

      I’m guessing you didn’t read the article, about how thousands of people are getting fined unfairly?

    • @[email protected]
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      118 days ago

      Because it incentivizes the most pro social option, especially in regards to land use. When more people use trains less roads are needed, less parking space is needed, and less traffic occurs. Subsidizing trains as a driver is significantly more sensible to me than the fact that my taxes pay for meat subsidies despite me being a vegetarian for example.