Uh huh, which won’t matter much if Harris loses and Trump gives Bibi the all clear to nuke Gaza. If you actually cared, you’d consider the material conditions of others and the actual consequences of your vote. But the rational and compassionate choice feels icky, so you’d rather polish your halo while Bibi finishes the job.
Have you tried actually asking Palestinians what they want you to do to help them? Because it seems like you fell for pro-Trump astroturfing and have confused obstinance for morality.
So read that letter and take the action they’re asking you to take to help them, or admit that you care more about flouting the misguided illusion of morality than you care about Palestinian lives.
So is donating money so they can get food, water, and medical supplies not helping them now? I don’t understand. Morality is definitely the issue here. It begins and ends on the very personal decision of not wanting to vote for genocide. Any relation to what the Trump campaign is doing is coincidental. The only thing I’m obstinate about is not throwing my support behind genocidists.
And Palestinians are telling you that “not wanting to vote for genocide” will make their situation worse.
So, again, take the action they’re asking you to take to help them, or admit that you care more about flouting the misguided illusion of morality than you care about Palestinian lives. Because it sounds to me like you care more about flouting the misguided illusion of morality than you care about Palestinian lives.
Options are Genocide Lite with a chance of less genocide, and Genocide Xtra Strength with the certainly of additional genocide. Your refusal to vote Genocide Lite is tacit support for Genocide Xtra Strength. Which is the greater moral good, obstructing Genocide Xtra Strength, or helping Genocide Xtra Strength? Because no matter how loud you whistle while you polish that halo, your actions are helping Genocide Xtra Strength and you’ll have to carry that disgrace to the grave.
Actual Palestinians: Please, we’re begging you, we know the Biden response since Oct 7 has been disappointing, but things will be much worse under Trump. Please, please, keep Trump out of the White House, if he wins we’re doomed.
Some smug moralizing bastard on the Internet: lol both sides
It’s not ad hominem to call you a bastard for being a bastard, it would be an ad hominem to say your argument is wrong because you’re a bastard. You’re a bastard because your argument is so wrong, not vice versa.
And what strawman? I literally linked you an actual letter by actual Palestinians actually imploring you to vote Harris if you care about them at all, and your response was literally “both sides”.
Unless you’d like to enlighten the rest of us why your opinion on the matter is more valid than that of a coalition of Palestinians and Muslim Americans?
Uh huh, which won’t matter much if Harris loses and Trump gives Bibi the all clear to nuke Gaza. If you actually cared, you’d consider the material conditions of others and the actual consequences of your vote. But the rational and compassionate choice feels icky, so you’d rather polish your halo while Bibi finishes the job.
He’s finishing the job anyway, both Harris and Trump will continue support to Israel.
Have you tried actually asking Palestinians what they want you to do to help them? Because it seems like you fell for pro-Trump astroturfing and have confused obstinance for morality.
So read that letter and take the action they’re asking you to take to help them, or admit that you care more about flouting the misguided illusion of morality than you care about Palestinian lives.
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So is donating money so they can get food, water, and medical supplies not helping them now? I don’t understand. Morality is definitely the issue here. It begins and ends on the very personal decision of not wanting to vote for genocide. Any relation to what the Trump campaign is doing is coincidental. The only thing I’m obstinate about is not throwing my support behind genocidists.
And Palestinians are telling you that “not wanting to vote for genocide” will make their situation worse.
So, again, take the action they’re asking you to take to help them, or admit that you care more about flouting the misguided illusion of morality than you care about Palestinian lives. Because it sounds to me like you care more about flouting the misguided illusion of morality than you care about Palestinian lives.
Options are Genocide Lite with a chance of less genocide, and Genocide Xtra Strength with the certainly of additional genocide. Your refusal to vote Genocide Lite is tacit support for Genocide Xtra Strength. Which is the greater moral good, obstructing Genocide Xtra Strength, or helping Genocide Xtra Strength? Because no matter how loud you whistle while you polish that halo, your actions are helping Genocide Xtra Strength and you’ll have to carry that disgrace to the grave.
This discussion keeps going in circles. I’m not voting for a politician that is pro genocide, lite or otherwise.
Actual Palestinians: Please, we’re begging you, we know the Biden response since Oct 7 has been disappointing, but things will be much worse under Trump. Please, please, keep Trump out of the White House, if he wins we’re doomed.
Some smug moralizing bastard on the Internet: lol both sides
Call me a bastard if you want, at least I’m not using strawmen and ad hominem to defend supporting a genocide.
It’s not ad hominem to call you a bastard for being a bastard, it would be an ad hominem to say your argument is wrong because you’re a bastard. You’re a bastard because your argument is so wrong, not vice versa.
And what strawman? I literally linked you an actual letter by actual Palestinians actually imploring you to vote Harris if you care about them at all, and your response was literally “both sides”.
Unless you’d like to enlighten the rest of us why your opinion on the matter is more valid than that of a coalition of Palestinians and Muslim Americans?