• atzanteol
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    15 days ago

    First friggin’ paragraph…

    Six decades after the bullet train first whisked passengers between Tokyo and Osaka, authorities in Japan are planning to do the same for cargo, with the construction of a “conveyor belt road”.

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      15 days ago

      The bullet train is wholly irrelevant here. It does not transport cargo now, does it? Build a fucking freight train line. Every time some tech bro suggests a solution involving pods, a civil engineer has a stroke

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        15 days ago

        Ah - you are correct - they don’t use those lines for freight (I thought they may). Still - Japan has some of the best train networks in the world.

        I expect this idea to die. People act like because a thing was suggested or being looked into that it will automatically be done. “Solar Frickin’ Roadways” never went anywhere an this sounds unlikely to as well.

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          14 days ago

          They won’t. Anything on a bullet train line needs to go at a speed of a bullet train. If it goes slower, it slows down the bullet trains on the line.

          Cargo does not require bullet train speeds, only passengers do. The added expense does not translate to a better service. Cargo is not time sensitive like people are, so usually freight trains go under 100 km/h. This requires a whole lot less infrastructure and a whole cheaper locomotives and wagon compositions, as locomotives and wagons that go faster are more expensive and require more maintenance.

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              13 days ago

              they don’t use those lines for freight (I thought they may).

              They won’t use the bullet train lines for freight.

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                13 days ago

                I know - I thought they did, but admitted that I was wrong.

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                  13 days ago

                  Tbh i just took it as a chance to talk about trains, not so much with the intent to correct you. Maybe someone would be wondering about it, you know ? I didn’t mean to come off as argumentative with you.

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          12 days ago

          I’m still annoyed that solar frickin’ parking lots (canopies, not panels on the ground) aren’t mandated in all new lots.

          With all the mandated parking on the sprawl we could probably solve at least EV charging anxiety. And with some grid storage it would make a perfect use of otherwise wasted land. Plus keep the cars parked underneath cool.

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            12 days ago

            That’s a big upfront cost to add to any parking lot though.

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              10 days ago

              The parking lots themselves are a big cost to the rest of us though. At least they could be offsetting some of the environmental costs of sprawl.

              Plus the electricity production should offset it in a few years, especially in the places wheee shaded parking is most desirable.

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        13 days ago

        I think it does have some cargo space, but not enough to matter in any significant way. IIRC it’s mostly just mail and parcels, but I might be mis-remembering.

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        15 days ago

        I like how you think you know better than Japan after skimming a simple article lol