• lurch (he/him)
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    there’s also misogynist incels who think women have an easier life and therefore becoming one is cheating.

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      If that isn’t true then why are 80 percent of suicides men

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        content warning: discussion of suicide

        The rate of male suicide cannot be attributed to any single metric like “ease of life” and is in fact an outplay of multivarious factors, a HUGE one being the fact that men have access to and choose more lethal attempt methods than women despite attempting with less frequency.

        There is no conclusion or simple truth to be found from your somewhat callous attempt to link misogyny to suicide rates. Rather, these are complex issues interrelated on a much more intricate plane that should be treated with dignity and respect.

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          They really are. Like they get so offended at everything. So emotional and unstable.

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          What about the male loneliness epidemic? Something like half of 20-30 year old men in US are virgins

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            You say loneliness, but then you say virgin, those are 2 different things. Are you using virginity as a proxy metric?

            Male lonelinessis an issue from what I can tell, but I think that’s to do with men not feeling safe to be open with others. Sex is orthogonal to that.

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            The male loneliness epidemic isn’t real bro. Roughly the same number of single people exist across the gender spectrum. We have pretty low standards and most of yall can’t even meet them then expect us to be your live in maid and sex toy. Learn skills, go to therapy and deal with your internalized misogyny and you’ll be drowning in pussy. No one deserves relationships they have to be earned.

            https://www.statista.com/statistics/446103/canada-single-population-by-gender/

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              Perhaps just as many women are single, but clearly it’s affecting men in a more extreme way. It is an issue, but the main culprit is probably toxic masculinity making men unable to be emotionally available nor do anything about their feelings except stew in them.

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                When men are emotionally available nobody cares anyway. Also men have almost zero purpose in society since women fill their role now. The suicide rate says it all

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                  women fill their role now ???

                  Do you mean that they’re equal? If so, what’s the problem? Women being allowed to do things doesn’t mean men can’t.

                  As a woman, I care about men being emotionally available. I’m gay, so I’m not gonna date/fuck them or anything, but I do care. The people I’ve seen who care the least about it are fellow men. Nobody deserves friends, family, or partners doing that to them.

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                    They’re not equal and they never will be. Women are being screwed over arguably worse and that’s shown by the birth rate, imo. Society has put an expectation on women to go to university and get a career or else seen as a failure. Choosing to be a mom is no longer acceptable in general.

                    You’ll probably get triggered at me saying this but women’s role is have kids because men cannot. Men are supposed to be providers and protectors but they aren’t anymore because for some reason we’ve decided to put that expectation on women.

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                  Zero purpose in society since women fill their role now

                  If people being more equal than before rids you of your purpose there’s quite a problem there, there’s no reason for that.

                  Don’t get me wrong, the suicides are a problem, obviously, but suicide attempts are actually multiple times more frequent among women (around 3x last I checked), so I don’t think this is a reasonable hypothesis (losing purpose because women are empowered more) as to why the suicide rates are higher.

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                    I don’t believe men and women have gotten more equal actually. (Not in the last few decades I mean)

                    Do you think it’s possible that suicide attempts among men are not reported as often? I’ve attempted suicide twice before and never told anyone. Long time ago and I’m happy now.

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              I’m not single but appreciate the advice

              You sound like a misandrist to me. Live in maid and sex toy? Is that what you actually think men want, that’s insane

              Male loneliness is definitely real. There are so many stats to back it.

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                Describe to me what you want from a relationship with a women.

                The loneliness epidemic spans both genders. It’s only called the male loneliness epidemic because society doesn’t care about women.