I had a multi-week long argument with someone on Reddit who was convinced that racism is irrelevant and/or doesn’t exist because it’s a distraction from class warfare or something.
I argued that yes, the rich are screwing us over, but racism still exists and is bad and you shouldn’t be racist.
They made responses that were at least 3x as long as mine. They didn’t really ever say anything new, except to say that my points were wrong because class warfare. After they went on a rant in response to my comment to the effect of “it’s still not nice to pretend racism doesn’t exist”, I lost hope with this person.
I started replying to them by mentioning something they said, then followed it up by copy-pasting some of my previous comments to them. I didn’t even read their essays. I started pawning off my replies to ChatGPT, and they’d reply every time. Unless they were also using an LLM and telling it to include typos and stuff, it looked like they were still vehemently arguing with me/ChatGPT.
After a few weeks of almost daily replies, I gave a two-sentence reply where I admitted that I wasn’t even reading their replies because I thought their opinion was nonsense and the “conversation” had been going nowhere.
Are you talking to me? I said that racism was traditionally used as a tool to divide working class movements so anti racism and class war go hand in hand. Trying to have one without the other is a classic way to divide working people against each other. Pretty weird how you read what I wrote and assumed I’m a racist.
You might’ve missed the word “not” in my previous comment, lol
EDIT: My apologies if I misread your intention – I’d entertained the idea that someone would try to goad me into an argument on the same topic, so I didn’t get invested in thinking too much about your comment.
Another commenter clued me in as to what you were probably getting at, and I think we’re in agreement, lol
I think the point was that racism has historically been used to distract from class warfare. If the ruling class doesn’t want the plebs to rise up, they keep the plebs distracted with something else like racism. Like if someone is arguing that class warfare is the true issue, they should be vehemently anti-racist as a result. But instead, this person was arguing that racism doesn’t exist, which runs counter to what someone educated about class warfare would believe. Because someone arguing about class warfare would believe that racism is manufactured by the elite. But the fact that it’s manufactured means it exists, even if it only exists due to artificial efforts to stoke it.
Yeah, I might’ve misread the intention of the previous comment, which I’d guessed might’ve been an attempt to goad me into an argument in-line with what I described in my original comment, lmao
I had a multi-week long argument with someone on Reddit who was convinced that racism is irrelevant and/or doesn’t exist because it’s a distraction from class warfare or something.
I argued that yes, the rich are screwing us over, but racism still exists and is bad and you shouldn’t be racist.
They made responses that were at least 3x as long as mine. They didn’t really ever say anything new, except to say that my points were wrong because class warfare. After they went on a rant in response to my comment to the effect of “it’s still not nice to pretend racism doesn’t exist”, I lost hope with this person.
I started replying to them by mentioning something they said, then followed it up by copy-pasting some of my previous comments to them. I didn’t even read their essays. I started pawning off my replies to ChatGPT, and they’d reply every time. Unless they were also using an LLM and telling it to include typos and stuff, it looked like they were still vehemently arguing with me/ChatGPT.
After a few weeks of almost daily replies, I gave a two-sentence reply where I admitted that I wasn’t even reading their replies because I thought their opinion was nonsense and the “conversation” had been going nowhere.
I didn’t get a reply to that comment.
Funny because racism is a classic way to neuter class war
I’m just going to assume you’re not a racist looking for an excuse to downplay racism
Are you talking to me? I said that racism was traditionally used as a tool to divide working class movements so anti racism and class war go hand in hand. Trying to have one without the other is a classic way to divide working people against each other. Pretty weird how you read what I wrote and assumed I’m a racist.
You might’ve missed the word “not” in my previous comment, lol
EDIT: My apologies if I misread your intention – I’d entertained the idea that someone would try to goad me into an argument on the same topic, so I didn’t get invested in thinking too much about your comment.
Another commenter clued me in as to what you were probably getting at, and I think we’re in agreement, lol
It’s fine I wasn’t very clear with my reply so I see how it could be misconstrued. You’re clearly still traumatised from the original argument lol.
I think the point was that racism has historically been used to distract from class warfare. If the ruling class doesn’t want the plebs to rise up, they keep the plebs distracted with something else like racism. Like if someone is arguing that class warfare is the true issue, they should be vehemently anti-racist as a result. But instead, this person was arguing that racism doesn’t exist, which runs counter to what someone educated about class warfare would believe. Because someone arguing about class warfare would believe that racism is manufactured by the elite. But the fact that it’s manufactured means it exists, even if it only exists due to artificial efforts to stoke it.
Yeah, I might’ve misread the intention of the previous comment, which I’d guessed might’ve been an attempt to goad me into an argument in-line with what I described in my original comment, lmao