The tool, which is able to cut lines at depths of up to 4,000 metres (13,123 feet) – twice the maximum operational range of existing subsea communication infrastructure – has been designed specifically for integration with China’s advanced crewed and uncrewed submersibles like the Fendouzhe, or Striver, and the Haidou series.
“So, in one corner, we have…” a biased collection of recent historical political actions by one man by which you are judging an entire country, its culture that has existed at least 300 times as long as that dictator, as well as a population of 1.4 billion other people.
“On the other, we have…” a failed direct comparison that falls apart under the lightest scrutiny.
“You can loathe a regime and have nothing against the people underneath it”
nobody argued you can’t.
“Chinese were lead…” oh boy. rough.
“Americans were subtly led…”
HAhah, come on…okay. Please elucidate the subtleties of the American conservative, particularly their blunt leader.
“The original premise: a land of freedom, for the people.” This is incorrect. a “Muslim ban” was proposed.
look at his policies. Rump is a rapist. not a subtle rapist, just a rapist.
“f we can not agree both countries are, essentially, the same, then one of us is refusing to aknowledge facts”
I think you are much more ignorant of the facts than refusing to acknowledge them here.
These countries are not the same at all. All facts go against your failed comparisons here and the similarity between the two countries overall.
In fact, you argue against your own conclusion by claiming the two recent dictators came to power differently.
You have no cohesive point or consistency except for how contextually and factually ignorant you are regarding every point you try to make.
I like how you instantly decided I was talking about China when writing that list. Shows your bias. But if you recognized it, good. Only means the similarities run deep enough for both countries to be mistaken by one another.
Thank you for remembering China has, technically, the longest standing continuous civilization. I’m aware. But since we are focusing our attention on recent history, let’s say last 70 years, I’m going to opt out the rest as not relevant for the discussion at hand.
Shall we deny the revolution led by Mao ended in violence against his own countrymen and revolutionary allies? The decades of disastrous policies, of cultural, religious and social repression, all of those considered classical indicators of established totalitarian regimes?
Meanwhile, across the Pacific, let’s also ignore and deny the ever growing shadow power and pressure on the government by the “conservative” to hold back or cull whatever small advancements on the social front made, since the 1950’s, paired with the constant recitation of the fear against communism.
There was violence and repression on both ends of this argument, obviously; one enacted it through bullets, while the other enacted it through the pen. Different methods, same results. Fascinating how any ideology, when led to it’s extremes degenerates into essentially the same outcome.
Now, if you will allow me, I am going to preserve my critical and accusatory position towards the political establishments of China and USA, as both being authoritarian repressive dangerous regimes.
“…you instantly decided I was talking about China when…”
Yes, seeing as how you said you were commenting on a thread about China and the US, and then at the end mentioned the Chinese and the Americans by name with reference to your comments, I did come to the conclusion you were talking about China and the US.
since you were literally talking about China and the US.
“Thank you for remembering China has, technically, the longest standing continuous civilization.”
I did not say that and that is incorrect, but you’re welcome.
“I’m aware”
clearly, you are not.
“But since we are focusing our attention on recent history…”
that is your personal myopia, do not speak for others.
“Shall we deny the revolution led by Mao…”
I guess you could, but I don’t see the point of disagreeing with me there.
His regime and its effects are very well documented, If you look into it at all, you’re just going to prove me right.
“let’s also ignore and deny the…”
go for it.
you understand that your denial of basic historical facts is the reason you are so far off base here, right?
“Fascinating how any ideology, when led to it’s extremes degenerates into essentially the same outcome.”
I was waiting for your historically incorrect conclusion of magnet theory, and you finally made your way there.
your argument that the sky and the ocean are the same thing because they’re so far apart from each other is a ridiculous conclusion, but explains your thought process.
You finished waving your red herrings around?
I have to get all your uninformed false starts out of the way somehow.
You need me to recap this exchange inception? Allow me.
I injected myself in this as you made your opinion on how another person was racist torwards chinese in general, as they saw China, the country, as in the regime, as dangerous.
You ascertained your moral high ground out of being well travelled and cultured, without ever addressing a single point of the other person’s argument. Your concern was their apparent racism under your higher morality.
I opted by criticizing this position of your, by clearly stating why and how someone can loathe a country’s regime without having nothing against the people living there, adding in the process why I personally find America snd China’s regimes parallels, although ideologically opposite.
Again, you chose reiterating I am wrong in my views but without addressing a single point of it, except for making vague hollow observations that add nothing to the conversation, not adding counter points of information. Twice.
I’ve already deemed this a closed argument. I am doing it again. Be well, have a good one.
I don’t wanna get in on the whole shouting match whether China bad or China good, but DicksAndPozza was pretty explicitly not talking about the regime, but the Chinese culture and people. Which is racist.
And what I read and understood was a loathing for the regime and social practices by it enacted onto the general populatio ln and not a generalized hatred towards the average individual. I also found there was an exageration to their words, although crude, but every person has their way to convey emotion.
There are better ways to confront people on their views than to start from insult.
Did my replies come out as shouting? Damn. Not what I intended.
“You need me to recap this exchange…?”
nope, I did that for you a couple comments above.
“as they saw China, the country, as in the regime, as dangerous”
you are making things up. That is not what @[email protected] said.
@[email protected] said:
"I hate the culture”, “I hate Chinese culturue”, “fuck China”, “I hate the whole thing”
The whole thing, sport. The people, the culture, the whole thing.
After I pointed out this was racist, DP was quick to change his tune, and say he hated everything about China, specifically the culture, except the people.
Hating culture or thinking one is superior to another is racism, especially when you know so little about the culture except the people who make it up.
Quick def for you: “Cultural racism is a concept that has been applied to prejudices and discrimination based on cultural differences between ethnic or racial groups. This includes the idea that some cultures are superior to others”
“Your concern was their apparent racism”
Yeah, I don’t like racism so I call it out when it occurs. Usually it stems from ignorance, and they just have to be called out to be woken up.
“criticizing this position of your,”
not my position, you’re making this up.
" personally find America snd China’s regimes parallels,"
absolutely absurd, as I explained above. but it’s good you changed your tune to: “although ideologically opposite”, which is still incorrect but more open-minded.
See, all I have to do is call you guys out and you start thinking more critically.
“without addressing a single point of it”
Which part do you want more help on? I have a lot of time and am free to continue correcting and educating you.
“without addressing a single point of it”
clearly not true, and you know it:
“except for…”
except for addressing every single point. With verifiable knowledge.
“I’ve already deemed this a closed argument”
Oh, clearly, it’s so closed you needed to write paragraphs rewriting yours and others’ comment history and reframing their racism.
“Be well, have a good one.”
Thanks, I’m having a GREAT one!