A newly released memo from the banking giant Wells Fargo outlines a predatory scheme to dismantle the USPS: sell off profitable parts, slash union jobs, and raise prices by up to 140 percent.
They don’t need to privatize the USPS, they just need to lobby for the government’s monopoly on post, established by act of Congress in the 1800s, to be removed. Then they can create a competing postal system, like Lysander Spooner did with the American Letter Mail Company. If they really think they can make a profitable service that competes with the USPS, let them try.
They don’t want to compete. That’s not the point of any of this. They want to strip it for parts because Trump has rang the dinner bell for the vultures to feast on everything we have built in this country.
How can you simultaneously ask for a source like a normal adult and resort to attacking the username of an account on the internet like a kindergartener? It detracts from your point regardless of validity.
Because you’re blatantly wrong. If Fedex or UPS had to operate at the scale the USPS does they wouldn’t last a week and you probably wouldn’t receive your mail on time if you ever did.
And even if they absorbed the USPS that means shipping costs would skyrocket because they’re not operating with tax money
Fair; poking fun at your lemmy handle was admittedly unnecessary, but I thought it was a decent ribbing, given the name and what you claimed.
However, none of that absolves you from providing where you get the information that “everyone collectively agrees that the USPS is shit” compared to FedEx and UPS and what it’s specifically “worse” at. You’re not claiming something axiomatic like “2+2=4”, you’re making broad generalizations about “everyone”.
Of course, you can make claims without evidence and post wojak memes all day, but then “everyone would collectively know” you’re full of shit.
That’s not really true. USPS isn’t a monopoly—it’s a public service with a legal obligation to deliver to every address in the U.S., no matter how remote or unprofitable. FedEx and UPS can cherry-pick the routes that make money and skip the rest. In fact, they often rely on USPS for the final leg of rural deliveries because it’s cheaper for them than doing it themselves.
Also worth noting: USPS doesn’t get taxpayer funding for operations and is saddled with ridiculous requirements, like pre-funding retiree benefits decades in advance—a rule no private company has to follow. Then people cut funding or impose restrictions and turn around to say, “See? Government doesn’t work.”
So yeah, it’s not perfect—but comparing it to FedEx or UPS without acknowledging the completely different rules they play by misses the point entirely.
The USPS has 2 legal monopolies, according to US code title 39:
Carrying letters, with an exception for “very urgent material” - which is why FedEx, UPS, DHL, etc are able to carry some letters, but can’t do regular ground letter delivery.
Use of mailboxes. It is a felony (IIRC) for non postal employees to put things inside mailboxes.
As someone who uses USPS to deliver mail or packages whenever I need to do that it definitely isn’t universally agreed on. It has reasonable prices compared to the other ones and I’ve never had issues with packages taking too long or getting lost.
thats only because USPS has been purposely crippled by dejoy and the gop, even fore pandemic bush forced USPS to fund pensions for 75 years in advance. thats what they are after.
I have never had USPS leave a package half torn open, closer to the sidewalk than my gate. I know it showed up like that and in that position from camera footage.
Thanks FedEx ground, you fucking garbage collection of contractors.
I’ve had mutilated packages delivered by USPS, FedEx, and UPS. FedEx and UPS, I called, filed a complaint, got a case number, and received a replacement within a few days to a week. USPS, I called, spent hours trying to reach someone, and was told “nothing we can do, call the sender”.
FedEx contractors suck, but at least the company will make you whole when their contractors fuck up. USPS employees don’t give 2 shits, IME.
We have the exact opposite experience in our area, USPS doesn’t even deliver to the correct houses half the time even if they somehow manage to get stuff here intact.
I dislike my mail service, they deliver crumpled balls that used to be boxes to houses miles away with completely different numbers than the intended destination.
They don’t need to privatize the USPS, they just need to lobby for the government’s monopoly on post, established by act of Congress in the 1800s, to be removed. Then they can create a competing postal system, like Lysander Spooner did with the American Letter Mail Company. If they really think they can make a profitable service that competes with the USPS, let them try.
They don’t want to compete. That’s not the point of any of this. They want to strip it for parts because Trump has rang the dinner bell for the vultures to feast on everything we have built in this country.
Yeah and you think that the current federal government would allow the USPS to compete fairly with the private corporation that their buddy owns?
It’s not a monopoly, everyone collectively agrees USPS is shit compared to their competitors FedEx and UPS
Evidence of this?
At what? Packages or letters? Bulk shipping? International? Domestic?
Define, refine, and support your terms and arguments.
Then again you decided on @[email protected] as a handle, so I suppose we should all expect nothing but “cock-a-doodle-doos” out of you.
How can you simultaneously ask for a source like a normal adult and resort to attacking the username of an account on the internet like a kindergartener? It detracts from your point regardless of validity.
also:
Sooo… is that your answer? You’re just going to imply that your claim is self-evident and leave it at that?
Because you’re blatantly wrong. If Fedex or UPS had to operate at the scale the USPS does they wouldn’t last a week and you probably wouldn’t receive your mail on time if you ever did.
And even if they absorbed the USPS that means shipping costs would skyrocket because they’re not operating with tax money
Fair; poking fun at your lemmy handle was admittedly unnecessary, but I thought it was a decent ribbing, given the name and what you claimed.
However, none of that absolves you from providing where you get the information that “everyone collectively agrees that the USPS is shit” compared to FedEx and UPS and what it’s specifically “worse” at. You’re not claiming something axiomatic like “2+2=4”, you’re making broad generalizations about “everyone”.
Of course, you can make claims without evidence and post wojak memes all day, but then “everyone would collectively know” you’re full of shit.
Just post ‘‘precum can get you pregnant’’ and watch the levees break.
It can; is that hotly debated?
That’s not really true. USPS isn’t a monopoly—it’s a public service with a legal obligation to deliver to every address in the U.S., no matter how remote or unprofitable. FedEx and UPS can cherry-pick the routes that make money and skip the rest. In fact, they often rely on USPS for the final leg of rural deliveries because it’s cheaper for them than doing it themselves.
Also worth noting: USPS doesn’t get taxpayer funding for operations and is saddled with ridiculous requirements, like pre-funding retiree benefits decades in advance—a rule no private company has to follow. Then people cut funding or impose restrictions and turn around to say, “See? Government doesn’t work.”
So yeah, it’s not perfect—but comparing it to FedEx or UPS without acknowledging the completely different rules they play by misses the point entirely.
The USPS has 2 legal monopolies, according to US code title 39:
Carrying letters, with an exception for “very urgent material” - which is why FedEx, UPS, DHL, etc are able to carry some letters, but can’t do regular ground letter delivery.
Use of mailboxes. It is a felony (IIRC) for non postal employees to put things inside mailboxes.
You’re kidding, right?
As someone who uses USPS to deliver mail or packages whenever I need to do that it definitely isn’t universally agreed on. It has reasonable prices compared to the other ones and I’ve never had issues with packages taking too long or getting lost.
thats only because USPS has been purposely crippled by dejoy and the gop, even fore pandemic bush forced USPS to fund pensions for 75 years in advance. thats what they are after.
Everybody?
I think you’re talking out your ass.
I have never had USPS leave a package half torn open, closer to the sidewalk than my gate. I know it showed up like that and in that position from camera footage.
Thanks FedEx ground, you fucking garbage collection of contractors.
I’ve had mutilated packages delivered by USPS, FedEx, and UPS. FedEx and UPS, I called, filed a complaint, got a case number, and received a replacement within a few days to a week. USPS, I called, spent hours trying to reach someone, and was told “nothing we can do, call the sender”.
FedEx contractors suck, but at least the company will make you whole when their contractors fuck up. USPS employees don’t give 2 shits, IME.
We have the exact opposite experience in our area, USPS doesn’t even deliver to the correct houses half the time even if they somehow manage to get stuff here intact.
Tell you what, let’s have a contest: we each mail 100 letters, me from USPS and you from FedEx, and we track which ones arrive first
If you are using FedEx ground, you might wait forever on a decent percentage of those letters.
I like my mail service. They did take the mailbox on the block during Trumps first term though, but people complained and we got it back.
I dislike my mail service, they deliver crumpled balls that used to be boxes to houses miles away with completely different numbers than the intended destination.