Yes even Bernie

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    Not at all.

    You are pulling the wool over your own eyes because it is easier to complain about how everything is set against you than to support a cause that is not certain to succeed.

    Like the diagram: incorrect, but simple to understand.

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        3 days ago

        The expansion and protection of civil rights and social services

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          Uh… Those are two different causes, which is why until 2020 one was successful and one wasn’t. Now both are failing, because without an equitable society civil rights will inevitably be degraded by rightwing demagogues, and the Democrats simply don’t want an equitable society. I’m not saying that means there’s no path forward, but that the Democrats won’t give you that path; the people of America (which I’m not one of) will have to make it themselves.

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            “Those are two different causes”

            They are not, but if they were, it wouldn’t matter anyway.

            “until 2020 one was successful and one wasn’t.”

            this is plainly incorrect, both were changing as they always do, civil rights and social services do not have a static end point.

            “Now both are failing, because without an equitable society civil rights will inevitably be degraded by rightwing demagogues”

            You’re hiding behind the big bad “everything is out to get me and there’s nothing I can do” again.

            You are also plainly incorrect again, as proven by current democracies under which civil rights have been expanded and protected by what you consider left-wingers.

            “the Democrats simply don’t want an equitable society”

            Also plainly incorrect, since you’re stating an absolute about a dynamic group.

            " I’m not saying that means there’s no path forward"

            strange that you are the one to bring it up, then.

            “the Democrats…”

            You cannot speak for them since you clearly don’t know anything about politics, especially the US Democratic party.

            “people of America (which I’m not one of)”

            seems unlikely, given your language and understanding of several “American” terms like “rightwing” and “leftwing”. hiding?

            “…will have to make it themselves.”

            correct! glad you unwittingly agree in the end. Bernie Sanders, AOC, Ohmar, Abrams, all “people of America”.

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              Does it feel good to spam “incorrect” at anything you don’t like? Either way this conversation is too farcical for my liking; I’m gonna go do something else.

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                “spam”

                I’m not spamming, I’m clearly and patiently explaining which points you are incorrect about.

                You happen to be incorrect often.

                “I’m gonna go do something else.”

                Good luck. Try opening your eyes before moving.