If so, was it polled somewhere?

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    China isn’t democratic

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      When asked whether they believe their country is democratic, those in China topped the list, with some 83% saying the communist-led People’s Republic was a democracy. A resounding 91% said that democracy is important to them.

      But in the U.S., which touts itself as a global beacon of democracy, only 49% of those asked said their country was a democracy. And just over three-quarters of respondents, 76%, said democracy was important.

      https://www.newsweek.com/most-china-call-their-nation-democracy-most-us-say-america-isnt-1711176

      Ya I will take the people of china’s word on this one.

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        yes and North Korea is democratic because it says they are.

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          More democratic than the US. The US has an electoral college system explicitly designed to make electing a president undemocratic. In Korea they vote for each equivalent of a cabinet position instead of letting the president just appoint all of them. https://www.ncnk.org/sites/default/files/DPRK constitution (2019).pdf

          If this shocks you, remember that Americans are the most propagandized people in the history of the world

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            Way to compare one of the least free countries with… one of the least free countries.

            now do Japan.

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              To the degree that Korea isn’t free, it’s is because they’ve spent their entire existence at war with the largest and most powerful global empire in history and have been cut off from international trade.

              The US isn’t free because it’s a fascist state. The Korean peninsula isn’t free also because the US is a fascist state.

              Now let’s hear your next vapid quip that’s supposed to mean more than objective facts and inarguable history, redditor. I don’t want you to lose even a bit of steam acting like you’re the smartest person in the room while displaying no knowledge about anything.

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                So the US is fascist, but China isn’t fascist? How’s that lil’ diddie work?

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                  Lol you did the vapid quip thing

                  How is the country that inspired Hitler’s entire ideology fascist? How is a state run by a communist party not fascist?

                  Wow really dealing with the reddit brain trust here, aren’t I?

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                    The US inspired Hitler? Really now? How’s that one work?

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          China is not North Korea.

          It took less then 2 minutes from my post for you to reply. You clearly didn’t even open the link. You just instantly changed the subject matter. Lol

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            Ah, hexbear users still struggling with federation, so cute!

            Post times are different per instance, my he/him, I looked through your article, and it didn’t really wow me.

            China is authoritarian, filled with mass propaganda and nationalism, of course they’re going to think they’re great.

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              Ah, hexbear users still struggling with federation, so cute!

              Post times are different per instance, my he/him, I looked through your article, and it didn’t really wow me.

              I literally got a notification when they replied. in real time…
              I know when I made my comment… less then 2 minutes before I got a notification…

              Tell me more about how the lemmy works. I have only been here 4 years.

              Good bye, agent.

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                oh SHIT. THEY’RE ONTO ME.

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              filled with mass propaganda and nationalism

              Yo we got that too in America.

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          The citation wasn’t the state, it was the people, or are you going to take such an immensely condescending attitude towards the approximately 1 billion people represented in that survey as believing they live in a democracy?

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            yes, the united states is not a democracy either, well done

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          That’s a bit of a non-sequitur in this instance don’t you think? We’re not talking about what the name of a place is, but rather how the two countries’ citizenry feel about their respective governments.

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            So isn’t it good that the US people don’t trust their government?

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              I wish that US people didn’t trust their government, especially when their government tells them that other countries are pure evil and need bombing.

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                do you wish Chinese people do the same?

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        The average chinese citizen doesnt recognize feminism or talk about Tiananmen. The average chinese citizen relies on their Baidu feed to tell them everything about the world because the internet is heavily censored. The average chinese dreams of coming to europe to escape china. The average chinese person doesnt evem have access to clean running water. The average chinese doesnt even recognize cantonese as a language because CCP involvement. I dont think anyone should care about what an average chinese citizen thinks.

        I pulled all of this out of my ass. Ive lived in china briefly, i wouldnt call it a democracy in any sense. Its a democratic socialist dream(heavy on the socialist).