I wonder if this is why I’ll see a post has a larger comment count than the comments I can read, too.
If you’ve blocked someone, that person’s comments and all comments replying to theirs are hidden from your view. This is my only guess why you might be seeing this. The comment count you see on your instance should be accurate, since it only counts comments it knows about and it doesn’t know about defederated ones.
This is something that I consistently see that people still haven’t gotten used to with Lemmy and other federated sites. People often complain about what they see on their feed or sometimes attack an OP for reposting. I assume people just aren’t thinking about it since we’re all still used to Reddit and using a centralized platform where everyone can see the same stuff. But with Lemmy, it seems that people forget that their feed will be completely different, based on which instance they are in.
Is startreck.website federated with hexbear? When sh.itjust.workes got federated by hexbear a few days ago, about a third of all was pro tankie memes and discussion from hexbear. They mostly stayed to their communities, but sometimes I would come across comments on memes from .ml.
No a third of posts were people complaining they saw someone that might have been a tankie and demanding to live in a neo lib echochamber, I barely saw any actual tankie talking points
I’d estimate maybe 10% of posts were responding to the 35% of posts. But that’s just rough estimates. The tankie taking points were in the comments, the memes were often just saying America bad in different ways.
You must not have been reading a lot of comments. It was getting borderline absurd for 2 days. They sound alright by description, but all they did was brigade the comment sections spewing crap at anyone a cm off of their ideology
I spend all my time in the comments, there were annoying pigpooping GIFs and some trash comments but also some well reasoned and interesting comments from perspectives not often expressed in popular media. It’s not like the comment sections never had trash comments and nonsence before.
I agree they were some well reasoned and interesting comments from perspectives not often expressed in popular media. But they were perspectives praising Russia’s and China’s horrible actions that I don’t really want to deal with. I gave some of them reasoned answers as well, but I would rather not see that junk daily. Thoughtful and well reasoned doesn’t mean it can’t also be horrible destructive tankie garbage.
What do you mean? I don’t automatically count criticism of America as tankie. There’s lots and lots of that on all instances, and I’m all for it. I count tankie criticism of America as tankie.
But we’re taking about how to recognise s tankie and your answer requires us to know they’re a tankie first.
And your motion is, what? that simply holding beliefs that get you labelled as a tankie means you don’t get any chance to express yourself in any way? Even if you say something completely accurate and pertinent to the conversation that’s still bad?
I have seen my fair share of tankies here, so there definitely is a presence of them here. But I also do think a lot of the complaints come from people who assume any leftist user or post is also a “tankie.”
Like I do see a lot of leftist memes posted to [email protected], which might be where a lot of the complaints are coming from. Likewise there has been a lot of drama with hexbear federating with a lot of communities that were previously shielded from them.
I’m talking about hexbear as tankie specifically. I haven’t really seen any reasonable leftists on that instance. They use lib as an insult to give an idea.
I only came across tankies. I couldn’t find anyone in the few days we were federated who would condemn Russia’s invasion or China’s treatment of the Uyghurs. Maybe they’re on there, but I didn’t find any.
There was a wave of tankie on Reddit and here during the reddexit. It was like, “where the fuck did stalin/mao/pol pot loving, atrocity denying weirdos come from en masse?” But you’re right the shock was bigger than the phenomenon.
It’s worth remembering when pol pot was offered access to the entire library of the cpc he just said “nah, I got this”.
Turning down the chance to read some dry, boring books on political economy is about the least communist thing a person can do. It’s only beaten by arguing about that shit and making a split when the argument gets heated.
Blehh yeah it feels a little astroturfy, all the push to conflating leftists with china-loving authoritarians. Makes a man wonder if libs actually stand for anything at all.
It doesn’t help that the tankies are trying to push the idea that “Tankie is a slur against all communists/leftists!” The word “tankie” was invented by communists as an insult against those specific “communists” the cheer on brutal oppression of civilians – particularly when those civilians are communists themselves.
The irony is tankies hate the “wrong kind of leftist” just as much as their other ideological enemies.
I’ve known many tankies (myself included) and I’ve never met a single one that thought it was a slur, but ok. Those civilians were fascists uprising BTW.
Yes, the famous “fascist uprisings” where students demanded things like a return to democracy with free elections, putting local communist politicians in power in the interim, end of occupation by a foreign power or state military, end to media censorship and oppression of dissidents, and the return to local rule.
Those are the things tankies defend. They self identify as communist, because anyone can call themself a communist. Tankies are the “communists” that blindly celebrate the instances of failure and oppression instead of denouncing or learning from them – that is what separates a tankie from normal, sane communists.
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it might be your instance not being fed’d with them
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If you’ve blocked someone, that person’s comments and all comments replying to theirs are hidden from your view. This is my only guess why you might be seeing this. The comment count you see on your instance should be accurate, since it only counts comments it knows about and it doesn’t know about defederated ones.
I, uh, think your instance is federated with them.
The op of this post who’s hollering at the moons instance is defederated with em.
Depending on the instance you are on and the blocks you have set up, your feed can be very full of the stuff
This is something that I consistently see that people still haven’t gotten used to with Lemmy and other federated sites. People often complain about what they see on their feed or sometimes attack an OP for reposting. I assume people just aren’t thinking about it since we’re all still used to Reddit and using a centralized platform where everyone can see the same stuff. But with Lemmy, it seems that people forget that their feed will be completely different, based on which instance they are in.
Is startreck.website federated with hexbear? When sh.itjust.workes got federated by hexbear a few days ago, about a third of all was pro tankie memes and discussion from hexbear. They mostly stayed to their communities, but sometimes I would come across comments on memes from .ml.
No a third of posts were people complaining they saw someone that might have been a tankie and demanding to live in a neo lib echochamber, I barely saw any actual tankie talking points
I’d estimate maybe 10% of posts were responding to the 35% of posts. But that’s just rough estimates. The tankie taking points were in the comments, the memes were often just saying America bad in different ways.
Oh, I guess if you count any criticism of America to automatically make somthing tankie then I guess maybe
You must not have been reading a lot of comments. It was getting borderline absurd for 2 days. They sound alright by description, but all they did was brigade the comment sections spewing crap at anyone a cm off of their ideology
I spend all my time in the comments, there were annoying pigpooping GIFs and some trash comments but also some well reasoned and interesting comments from perspectives not often expressed in popular media. It’s not like the comment sections never had trash comments and nonsence before.
I agree they were some well reasoned and interesting comments from perspectives not often expressed in popular media. But they were perspectives praising Russia’s and China’s horrible actions that I don’t really want to deal with. I gave some of them reasoned answers as well, but I would rather not see that junk daily. Thoughtful and well reasoned doesn’t mean it can’t also be horrible destructive tankie garbage.
No I count criticism of America made by tankies specifically as a gateway into China Russia and North Korea are actually good as tankie.
But isn’t that begging the question?
What do you mean? I don’t automatically count criticism of America as tankie. There’s lots and lots of that on all instances, and I’m all for it. I count tankie criticism of America as tankie.
But we’re taking about how to recognise s tankie and your answer requires us to know they’re a tankie first.
And your motion is, what? that simply holding beliefs that get you labelled as a tankie means you don’t get any chance to express yourself in any way? Even if you say something completely accurate and pertinent to the conversation that’s still bad?
Tankies really are just stupid and can’t read, huh?
and I had to block all those hexbear communities, cuz suddenly they flooded my feed
Yep same. So far I’ve blocked 4 hexbear instances
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Still shitty that everyone else also has to see and block that stuff… It surely doesn’t make an instance inviting for new users.
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I have seen my fair share of tankies here, so there definitely is a presence of them here. But I also do think a lot of the complaints come from people who assume any leftist user or post is also a “tankie.”
Like I do see a lot of leftist memes posted to [email protected], which might be where a lot of the complaints are coming from. Likewise there has been a lot of drama with hexbear federating with a lot of communities that were previously shielded from them.
I’m talking about hexbear as tankie specifically. I haven’t really seen any reasonable leftists on that instance. They use lib as an insult to give an idea.
So the instance that has anarchists and syndicalists on it (as well as, MLists, MSMists, and Stalinists, and more) are all tankies?
I only came across tankies. I couldn’t find anyone in the few days we were federated who would condemn Russia’s invasion or China’s treatment of the Uyghurs. Maybe they’re on there, but I didn’t find any.
There was a wave of tankie on Reddit and here during the reddexit. It was like, “where the fuck did stalin/mao/pol pot loving, atrocity denying weirdos come from en masse?” But you’re right the shock was bigger than the phenomenon.
Wtf, lmao. The only people calling pol pot communist are liberals.
No one called them communist here, they are just calling out people who are apologists for genocide.
TIL Marxist-Leninists (which Pol Pot was) are not communist.
It’s worth remembering when pol pot was offered access to the entire library of the cpc he just said “nah, I got this”.
Turning down the chance to read some dry, boring books on political economy is about the least communist thing a person can do. It’s only beaten by arguing about that shit and making a split when the argument gets heated.
Blehh yeah it feels a little astroturfy, all the push to conflating leftists with china-loving authoritarians. Makes a man wonder if libs actually stand for anything at all.
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It doesn’t help that the tankies are trying to push the idea that “Tankie is a slur against all communists/leftists!” The word “tankie” was invented by communists as an insult against those specific “communists” the cheer on brutal oppression of civilians – particularly when those civilians are communists themselves.
The irony is tankies hate the “wrong kind of leftist” just as much as their other ideological enemies.
I’ve known many tankies (myself included) and I’ve never met a single one that thought it was a slur, but ok. Those civilians were fascists uprising BTW.
Yes, the famous “fascist uprisings” where students demanded things like a return to democracy with free elections, putting local communist politicians in power in the interim, end of occupation by a foreign power or state military, end to media censorship and oppression of dissidents, and the return to local rule.
Yep, all of those revolutions were clearly the work of fascists.
Those are the things tankies defend. They self identify as communist, because anyone can call themself a communist. Tankies are the “communists” that blindly celebrate the instances of failure and oppression instead of denouncing or learning from them – that is what separates a tankie from normal, sane communists.
You’re probably right but i didn’t come all the way over here to hear you talk sensibly damnit
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UGH FINE. here is the new favorite recipe around this house, the surprise hit at the diner table this summer. kimchi noodles
I was fed with them and it’s not nearly as bad as everyone complaining says it was.
Are you complaining about not seeing racism and genocide denial?
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