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    Neither existed in Europe back then. I’m not sure if there is another reference to that exact date I’m missing

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      América was discovered by Colon in 1492 and bring the first potato and tomato seeds to Europe

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        I’m pretty sure he didn’t discover it, what with people having lived there for tens of thousands of years.

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          I discovered a new restaurant last week. It’s been around for decades but it was new to me. I can’t remember the first time I tasted a tomato or potato, but to the Europeans it must have been amazing! And don’t forget chocolate!

          You are correct about the thriving and ancient civilizations in the “New World” of course. Getting olives and oranges and figs, even horses, doesn’t feel like enough compensation for what happened to them…

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          I never got this semitic discussion. I can discover a cabin in a forest or a store in a city but Columbus can’t discover a continent because he wasn’t the first one who discovered it?

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            As far as I care, “discovered” is in relation to cartography, at which point most societies know of it and its location.

            Anything else is just pathetic semantics that could go back through evolution and the chronology of Earth’s continents and geography. No one wants that except a couple of Actually Guys.

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              As far as I care, “discovered” is in relation to cartography, at which point most societies know of it and its location.

              Well then you can’t go with Columbus. Basically no one in Asia or Africa knew what he did, let alone both of the Americas and Australia. So unless you define Europe as the only place with societies, Columbus doesn’t even come close.

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                most societies

                I would change this to “a society” so Columbus discovered America for the European society while other societies already knew it or still didn’t

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            This would have more merit if he ever set foot in North America. He landed in the Bahamas. It’s technically part of the North American tectonic plate, but so is part of Iceland.

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                  And there is no causal relation between the discovery of these

                  Edit: Also: the meme is about potatoes and tomatoes which come from around central America. They aren’t USA exports. The meme is about the discovery of America as in the Americas

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                    And it doesn’t matter, because what is up for dispute is what people mean when they say America. Which is North America, regardless of the actual facts. That’s what colloquial means

                    Pay attention to what is actually being discussed before running your mouth to make yourself sound smart.

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          The gravity was there from the beginning of time, but Newton discovered it.

          English is not my first language but as long as you specify for who, you can use discover, like "I discovered this movie last year, it’s my new favorite movie since then’ and the movie was published 40 years ago.

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        Do potato grow from seeds? I thought they just grew from other potato.

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          Yes, you are right , he brings potatoes and tomatoes seeds, not potatoes seeds and tomatoes seeds

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          They can be, they’re nightshades so they make little tomato-like berries which contain seeds. Usually people just replant potatoes instead because it’s easier and they grow faster.