Yea, one thing I feel is that vegans really are letting perfect be the enemy of good. While I do empathise and am eating less meat myself, I feel like screeching on people being omnis is missing the forest for the trees; if most people did like what you mentioned, eating meat once a week, that’s 6/7th less animals slaughtered. Along with the reductions in emissions and whatever environmental impact too, of rearing so many animals for their meat.
When I, a man, am eating by myself I include meat sparingly, but when I eat food prepared by the women in my life, meat is front and centre and hard to avoid. I guess that is the threat to masculinity? The “why won’t he eat this perfectly good meal I made for him?”
You want me to lie? I’m not necessarily looking for “planty meals”. I gravitate in that direction when I cook because that’s the kind of food I can make taste good, but that is not necessarily someone else’s skillset. There is nothing wrong with the meat dishes put in front of me. They taste good too.
Look up the history and origin of making gravy and sauces … modern gravies and sauces were started and developed in the Middle Ages for beef and meat dishes to mask the taste of rotten or semi rotten food.
Yes I know there are other sauces and gravies for vegetables … but the little dish of gravy for your roast beef supper was started because someone just wanted their food to taste less like a rotting carcass because they had no refrigeration back then.
Agreed … every time I make steak, or chicken, or turkey, or pork, I always carefully collect the drippings, make a roux and mix my own gravy. I’ve done the same with goose, moose and caribou.
Takes lots of practice but now everyone raves about my gravy … no homo tho.
These studies are made through a lens of “men have frail egos, how else can we frame this viewpoint”.
I don’t give a fuck about “masculinity” or “femininity”. If it’s cheap, tastes good, and isn’t full of EEEEEEs, I’ll buy it. Standard “aubergine”, tomatoes, spring onions and whatever aren’t tasty without a whole lot of prep. Fuck salads. Give me that cheap, spicy, Indian sauce that I can lather onto sweet potato purree, carrot pasta, and pickled mango… and it costs less than a dish with a fucking steak? Hell yeah I’m buying it! Steak will be what I eat when I go out.
Make another study focusing on pricing and how much money you can save per year eating veggie and I bet my ass it’ll have an impact. These stupid “my gender is better than your gender” bullshit doesn’t help.
Most modern social “science” papers are just “people I agree with are actually just superior people, and everyone I disagree with is stupid and dumb”, with the most blatant statistics fuckery on earth
Also because it’s still the only way to get enough protein unless you want to drink a bunch of shakes every day. Anyone who has counted calories before can tell you that most men are deficient unless they’re heavy meat eaters.
As a vegetarian for 30 uears and now Vegan for probably 2-3 years, i can attest that your protien statement is false. i have never done protien shakes as a diet supplement. The lentils I buy are 30% protien. Other Beans are good also.
No its because it tastes good.
Sauces, marinades, vegtable broth and spices taste good.
Yeah Shure but why limit yourself from stuff that tastes good?
Just limit consumption to reasonable levels, its also a healt thing, but i don’t see the need to never eat fish and meat anymore, once a week is ok.
Yea, one thing I feel is that vegans really are letting perfect be the enemy of good. While I do empathise and am eating less meat myself, I feel like screeching on people being omnis is missing the forest for the trees; if most people did like what you mentioned, eating meat once a week, that’s 6/7th less animals slaughtered. Along with the reductions in emissions and whatever environmental impact too, of rearing so many animals for their meat.
When I, a man, am eating by myself I include meat sparingly, but when I eat food prepared by the women in my life, meat is front and centre and hard to avoid. I guess that is the threat to masculinity? The “why won’t he eat this perfectly good meal I made for him?”
Hm… I mean you can talk to your GF about that, she will probably understand
What is there to talk about? There is nothing wrong with the meals.
Ask her if she can make some more planty meals because you want to take care of your health, thats usually seen favorable
You want me to lie? I’m not necessarily looking for “planty meals”. I gravitate in that direction when I cook because that’s the kind of food I can make taste good, but that is not necessarily someone else’s skillset. There is nothing wrong with the meat dishes put in front of me. They taste good too.
Ah i thought you wanted to eat less meat, if not then there obviously isn’t a problem.
You wouldn’t have been lying if you wanted that.
And I didn’t plan on stopping eating those either
Look up the history and origin of making gravy and sauces … modern gravies and sauces were started and developed in the Middle Ages for beef and meat dishes to mask the taste of rotten or semi rotten food.
Yes I know there are other sauces and gravies for vegetables … but the little dish of gravy for your roast beef supper was started because someone just wanted their food to taste less like a rotting carcass because they had no refrigeration back then.
And now they make a nice blend that wouldn’t taste the same without meat.
Agreed … every time I make steak, or chicken, or turkey, or pork, I always carefully collect the drippings, make a roux and mix my own gravy. I’ve done the same with goose, moose and caribou.
Takes lots of practice but now everyone raves about my gravy … no homo tho.
These studies are made through a lens of “men have frail egos, how else can we frame this viewpoint”.
I don’t give a fuck about “masculinity” or “femininity”. If it’s cheap, tastes good, and isn’t full of EEEEEEs, I’ll buy it. Standard “aubergine”, tomatoes, spring onions and whatever aren’t tasty without a whole lot of prep. Fuck salads. Give me that cheap, spicy, Indian sauce that I can lather onto sweet potato purree, carrot pasta, and pickled mango… and it costs less than a dish with a fucking steak? Hell yeah I’m buying it! Steak will be what I eat when I go out.
Make another study focusing on pricing and how much money you can save per year eating veggie and I bet my ass it’ll have an impact. These stupid “my gender is better than your gender” bullshit doesn’t help.
They aren’t peer reviewed and basically dont count as studies in a science way.
Most modern social “science” papers are just “people I agree with are actually just superior people, and everyone I disagree with is stupid and dumb”, with the most blatant statistics fuckery on earth
Also because it’s still the only way to get enough protein unless you want to drink a bunch of shakes every day. Anyone who has counted calories before can tell you that most men are deficient unless they’re heavy meat eaters.
As a vegetarian for 30 uears and now Vegan for probably 2-3 years, i can attest that your protien statement is false. i have never done protien shakes as a diet supplement. The lentils I buy are 30% protien. Other Beans are good also.
Yeah but then you have to eat beans, and I can’t stand beans.
Lol. plain beans can be boring. But cooked into varoius Indian, ethiopian or african dishes with spices they are delicious
Denying any connection between meat eating and masculinity is just unreasonable
Certainly there can be more than ome reason for eating meat and I am pretty sure they can exist side by side