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Kim Davis, the former county clerk who refused to issue marriage licenses in Kentucky to same-sex couples, must pay a total of $260,104 in fees and expenses to attorneys who represented one couple, according to a federal judge’s ruling.
That is in addition to $100,000 in damages a jury said the former Rowan county clerk should pay the couple who sued.
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Davis drew international attention when she was briefly jailed in 2015 over her refusal despite the US supreme court’s legalization of same-sex marriage. She based her refusal on her belief that marriage should only be between a man and a woman.
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I actually was doing the math on this kind of thing lately, but it was RE: Alex Jones/Sandy Hook.
So, the average US lifespan is about 77.
So a court case taking 10 years is about 1/10th of your entire life.
Now, consider that the beginning of your life (say up to 13 or so) you’re not really in any mental position to be able to bring a court case. At the end of your life (similarly probably the last 15 years or so), you’re in a similar position, where your body and mind may be failing and you may not be in a position to bring a court case.
So if we cut off the “unusable in court” years of our lives, we’re left with about 50 years of good quality “living” as an adult.
That means a court case taking 10 years is actually closer to 1/5th of your entire life.
How is a life where a large portion of it was fighting in court just to get a bare minimum of what is passing for justice a quality life?
Do people not understand the passage of time and these are literally lives being wasted fighting for justice from fucking idiots?
I understand the whole “court moves slow” but god damn there’s got to be a better fucking system than making people wait out giant chunks of their lives for a pathetic half-ass result that isn’t anywhere close to “justice.”
It’s a fucking travesty that anyone defends it. It’s a broken ass system, stop acting like we can fix something that places such little value of the time spent on such things in a persons life.
Seriously if I had spent that many years trying to claw back justice from a fuckwit like this or Alex Jones, I would not look back and think I had had a chance to have a “life well lived.” No, the “justice” system took that from me by taking its sweet fucking time.
Justice delayed is justice denied.
I’m not sure I follow your point. Do you think people actually do nothing but sit in court for hours every day while a case goes through multiple appeals?
Well for starters these people have had a huge bill hanging over their heads. Also the court case can determine how they must live their lives. Apart from that it puts a huge stress on people waiting in uncertainty of what will be decided, without really being able to do much about it.
So although it may not take life quality away equally for all, there is absolutely a risk that it does to a very high degree. And as always with such things, it generally hits the little guy way harder than rich people.
In many cases, your point would be valid. In this particular case, the ACLU sued on the plaintiffs’ behalf, and would cover the legal bills if the courts hadn’t ordered Kim Davis to pay.
“Those wronged have to wait 1/5 the average human lifespan for justice.”
There. I can summarize it for you, but I can’t understand it for you.
That’s not true, though. The wronged parties already got what they wanted. They were issued their marriage license while she was in prison. The ACLU’s purpose in suing Davis for damages and legal fees is to make sure that the precedent is clearly established and other officials will be dissuaded from pulling similar stunts in the future. Worst case scenario at this point is that the ACLU is on the hook for the legal fees.
It’s almost like the conservative court strategy is to appeal, delay, and hope you die before you face any consequences.
It’s almost like the “justice” system was organized like that on purpose because a lot of the people who helped write the constitution didn’t want the aristocracy to go anywhere, or to have to face consequences, so they wrote a shitty constitution that still generally protected everyone in a position of power from ever having to answer to “a fucking plebeian.”
Gee, I wonder why the justice system is boiled down to “Whoever has the most money can just fucking wait out the other guy to win.”
Too much of our judicial system globally is based on Roman law. Our concept of private property is derived from their excuse for maintaining slavery.
Yeah the People’s History is entertaining but might want to move on to real history at some point, but hey I get the urge. I enjoyed the movie Braveheart which is much more accurate.
Your comment comes off as from someone who hasn’t read the US Constitution before.
And yours comes off as being smug about having read it, in spite of not having understood key aspects of it.
Oh same thing I am doing with my student loan debt.
If I make it to death it means I win.
I mean, the legal system usually does. There’s been a bit of a shit fight as to who should pay, the state or Kim. Might boggle your mind more to know that she still had the position up until 2019…
that’s a feature. it lets the powerful fuck over the powerless without consequence because the powerless can’t afford to take a decade of their lives off fighting in court.