• @taladar
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    75 months ago

    they can’t take away a console disk,

    Technically not but you still only own a license and those walled garden platforms of consoles can easily be used to block you from using that disk for anything meaningful.

    • @sugar_in_your_tea
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      15 months ago

      You can always play the version shipped with the disk with the game unplugged from the internet.

      On PC, you’d have to pirate if a game is taken down.

      • FartsWithAnAccent
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        5 months ago

        On PC, you could pirate, but you could also buy DRM free games from GOG.com and keep a copy locally backed up.

        It’s also worth noting that optical media will delaminate over time, rendering them unusable.

        • @sugar_in_your_tea
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          15 months ago

          One thing GOG doesn’t do is allow me to sell older games. I can do that just fine with physical media on a console. AFAIK, it’s also legal to make physical backups of physical media you own, so it can theoretically live forever (not sure if you can sell backups if the original dies though).

          That said, I’m still almost 100% on PC. Cheaper games and being able to upgrade on my schedule is way better than the overall experience on consoles.

          • FartsWithAnAccent
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            25 months ago

            I suppose not but every time I went to sell console games the prices were insultingly low at every store and not much better selling it online.

            • @sugar_in_your_tea
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              Idk, Switch games hold their value pretty well. I buy mostly used, and it’s rare to find anything under $30. If I wasn’t so lazy, I’d be able to play for just the cost of shipping.

              • FartsWithAnAccent
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                25 months ago

                Hmm, I should sell my Switch games. I haven’t played since I bought my Steam Deck.

      • @azertyfun
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        55 months ago

        The version that shipped with the disk? It’s not 2005 anymore gramps.

        Either there’s no disk but a redeemable code (for a license), or there’s a disk but without even the day 1 patch (which requires a license and the game probably runs like shit without it).

        Piracy is WAY superior in those aspects. At least a repack had all the game updates bundled in.

        • @sugar_in_your_tea
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          05 months ago

          Pretty much every game released on console, even today, can be completed just using the disk. Check out the Someordinarygamers YouTube video about playing Cyberpunk 2077 all the way through on the disk version, and that game was “literally unplayable.”

          Yeah, you could probably get the full pirated version for most games, but with physical media, you at least know you can play that version of the game. There’s value there.

          That said, I mostly play on PC because I trust Steam enough.

    • @[email protected]
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      -15 months ago

      No, you don’t own a license if you have physical media. This is a myth that’s totally unfounded and needs to die.

      When you buy a physical book, you don’t have a license to read that book.

      When you buy a physical movie, you don’t have a license to watch that movie.

      When you buy a physical game, you don’t have a license to play the game.

      In all cases you have a copy of the copywritten work that you can use under the copyright agreement, you can resell it, you can use it as many times as you like, they can’t take it away from you. This is all enshrined in various copyright protections throughout the years in every juristicion.

      You own a physical production that is a copy of a copywritten work. It can’t be taken away.

      • @[email protected]
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        65 months ago

        Aren’t there games where the physical disc doesn’t have the entire game on it or won’t even run without a patch? Wouldn’t that effectively be the same thing if they decide to stop providing the patch?

        • @[email protected]
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          15 months ago

          The only one I can think of was the Spyro trilogy remaster, which had games 2 and 3 as downloads.

          In any case I think there’s more chance of Valve going bust than Sony or Microsoft…