lol.
Makes sense because they were spoofing real machine IDs. People want to shit on apple for shutting it down, but I would be fucking pissed if I started getting other people’s messages and notifications while having mine go to someone else.
Trying to build a business off of someone else’s services is scummy and Apple did the right thing. If they weren’t charging for it I might feel differently.
If they weren’t charging for it I might feel differently.
I don’t think they ever charged anybody, they suspended that idea after the first outage.
Also, they were using their own fleet of Macs, hence why Apple was able to isolate them easily if they’re all centrally located.
My understanding of it (and I could be wrong I’m not that invested in this) is that the first iteration used their Mac fleet, while the second iteration was spoofing IDs. This would be the third iteration.
It was a few days ago I read this, I’d have to look up the source again
I have no problem with this third iteration. There’s plenty of Mac users with android phones. If you’re using your own machine ID, have at ‘er.
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Its an entertaining chickens-coming-home-to-roost situation for Apple’s skeleton key service and I’m glad for it to be getting some much deserved scrutiny.
On the other hand, its another distraction in the same way that “you need to update to our new iOS yeaterday spiel” is a distraction from the fact that
LockDown mode > new update/patch that doesn’t address all the main attack surface vulns
Yeah, tho, I would never recommend iMessage to anyone I cared about and thats only one of the many reasons I would never give it the time of day. Signal is superior in basically every way except its not as ubiquitous but its also not a default opt-out first-party thing like iMessage.
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Can you flesh that out a bit more, I’m not sure what you’re getting at bur I want to :)
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I’m also confused by this.
Also, why people think that people need to be convinced to use iMessage. I just tell people to text me and give them my number. If they have an iPhone, great. We can play SeaBattle! If not, then I guess our messages won’t be encrypted and we won’t be doing anything illegal together. 🤷🏻♂️
Just a bunch of people in here trying to justify why they’re upset that other people don’t want to do things the same way they do.
I would prefer that iMessage fall back to RCS rather than SMS, but whatever. Apparently that’s coming and I’m not downloading another app to message one person. Especially not one owned by Facebook.
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I don’t think you are hearing me. iMessage is already beyond non-private and has several built-in backdoors to ensure anyone who demands access can have multiple avenues to do so.
Whether Congress engages witb this seriously or not is irrelevant. Its a terrible platform and it gives people not only a false sense of privacy, but it is also a gaping security hole in iOS that I can only hope is completey shut down by “toggling” it once its already been forced on you when you sign in to iCloud.
Literally not invested in it, the more attention anf scrutiny it receives, the better cuz its a bullshit thing that has no place for me on my phone and on the phone of anybody who wants to have private convos and not have their chat program be a giant security gap on their phone. Its gotten people killed
The best argument I’ve heard is that it is the one halfway decent messaging app that a lot of non-tech people use.
So either you need to explain to grandma what a discord or telegram is or you get iMessage to work on the device you want to use.
The green bubble thing is also more than just the color of the bubbles. Many of the features of iMessage don’t work if the other person is on android.
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I don’t want to use iMessage but I’m almost tired enough of 12 kb pictures and insanely poor quality videos from iPhones to try it.
A big part of the problem is that no other options for SMS/MMS even exist on iOS, so all those communications default to iMessage (and it’s fairly terrible at some of it.)
I find myself thinking the same thing every time this comes up. The level of obsession is absurd.
I can tell all my friends to use the open source replacement, but network effects entrench a monopoly and Grandma is only going to use the stuff that’s preinstalled.
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I’m not going to be the guy harassing all my friends to go on Signal. Get real.
For years me and my friends have a number of group chats in iMessage, and about a year ago someone started hanging with our crew who has an android. I suggested signal and was pleasantly surprised how much support I got in the suggestion, both from the iPhone users dreading going green and from the android user worried about being left out. A couple people even already had it even though they didn’t use it, just tried it out after reading an article etc. anyway fast forward to now and all our group chats are in signal, and it’s been great. It’s a fantastic app, the transition was as simple as sending an invite link to the iMessage chat. We even use the stories function now and again. It’s great, I recommend giving it a try :)
I had less luck trying to get my family to switch to signal when we went green, but there’s a lot more tech-challenged people in that group. However most already had what’s app for international use, and moving to that was super easy - i would still prefer signal over giving my contacts list to meta, but the chats and backups are e2e so I’ll take it over sms/unencrypted rcs
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Cool, make me a fusion reactor. It’s hard but can be done.
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But but but blue bubbles.
Which I also don’t understand how that of all things is so super important, frankly I hadn’t even really noticed it back when I had an iPhone.
Fine, you are not personally affected by it, but the social disparity that is highlighted by people’s need to feel exclusive and yet part of a tribe is the reason.
That’s like complaining about not having any other premium branded item out there. If your not doing so filters people out of your life, well you just did yourself a favor.
Who gives a shit? It’s text messaging. These people need to go outside or something.
I don’t disagree, just explaining it, and recognising it is the sub 25 year old age bracket explains a lot.
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Yeah I am sure having an android is filtering out upwards of 90% of your potential friends as a high school student /s
That is such an absurd claim it doesn’t deserve a rebuttal.
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As a European, this sounds like a very American problem. Over here, everyone uses WhatsApp and WhatsApp only since 2012.
It’s bad. People don’t even wanna use signal.
I still don’t know why anyone would go out of their way to use this. Just to be blue?
To send high quality media messages, use group chats, and use encryption with iPhone users who refuse to install a universal chatting app.
From what I heard, some kids are really into it and effectively blocking other kids who are not blue. So I can see some reason there.
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Beeper doesn’t route every message through the bridge, just authenticates there periodically. They’re also open sourcing that bridge now.
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They’re suggesting to piggy-back off acquaintances Macs since a single one is fine for 10-20 accounts per their reporting. At that point I wonder if you could spin minimal Hackintosh install in a VM to keep it going.
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