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    11 months ago

    I wouldn’t go down this route, painting all rednecks as Maga supporters is not fair to them or conducive to a good outcome.

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    When I was dating, I laughingly told a girl I was “kinda redneck”.

    “Uh, exactly how redneck?”

    “I loathe Trump and don’t start me on January 6th. If that’s what you’re asking.”

    “Whew. Just checking.”

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      I like huntin’, fishin’, farmin’, shootin’ the revenuers that try to bust my still and steal my 'shine, and I stand in solidarity with my fellow workers against the evils of capitalism.

      Is that sufficiently redneck?

      (I don’t actually like fishing; I think it’s boring, and I don’t like fish very much.)

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        LOL, I’m on the water with my kayaks, canoe and little plastic boat, “Caught anything?”

        “Uh, no. Just stopping on sandbanks and drinking Keystones. Walking around the woods and such. Uh, how about you? Catch anything?”

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    11 months ago

    This is some full-on stirrin’-somes-shit probably-russian/chinese-originated bullshit meant to divide folks up. Real rednecks would never hand their liberty to some two-bit lyin sack of shit New York Billionaire landlord’s son swindler like Trump

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      11 months ago

      Historically Republicans were instrumental in abolishing slavery. Today’s version wants it back.

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      11 months ago

      Not the indiana kind.

      Source: I grew up a conservative indiana flatbilly.

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      Mmmm political left and right don’t align strictly on a union-supporting axis. Even left and right don’t really mean much anymore, because the Conservative party isn’t anchored to a specific set of ideologies the was Progressives are. A conservative will support a union when the union helps rhe conservative, will oppose the union when the union hurts the conservative, and will demonize the union when it helps them get elected by lathering up their base of voters.

      Progressives support labor rights, equitable pay, and regulations that protect the safety and liberty of the worker. Progressives will support those ideals even when it does not help them directly.

      Many people associate Communists and Socialists with the “left” and Libertarians and Free Market Capitalists with the “right”. But there are conservative communists and progressive capitalists.

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        Whaa? “Many people associate Communists and Socialists with the “left” and Libertarians and Free Market Capitalists with the “right”. But there are conservative communists and progressive capitalists.” You can’t be a conservative Communist, its oxymoronic, dito for the other one too. If you call yourself a communist and have conservative ideals u are not a communist and should change your believes or be removed for communist spaces. On the other hand if you call yourself progressive and support capitalism you aren’t progressive as capitalism is inherently oppressive. You can call yourself whatever you’d like but you have to walk the walk too, to be it.

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          Socialism is left/liberal as a concept (and so is capitalism, in actual fact)… It’s not left/liberal when implemented at scale…

          The arbiter of resources, whatever or whoever that may be, invariably becomes right/authoritarian. The simple nature of the arbitration causes it, and a truly left/liberal society would, by necessity, require a lack of said arbitration.

          Such a society cannot exist at scale. History has proven that repeatedly. A left/liberal society could arguably only exist as anarchy, and frankly, capitalism is far closer to that than communism is. The “every man for himself” nature of capitalism is inherently more capable of providing individual liberty and equal opportunity than the “to each according to his needs”, very simply because of the inherent requirement of having an entity judge that need… Said judging entity is inherently authoritarian in nature…

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          Of course you can be a conservative Communist. Most of China is both communist and conservative.

          Ultimately, you can call yourself whatever you want.

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            China is not communist, just like the Nazi party was not socialist. And yeah you can yourself whatever you’d like but that doesn’t make it true. I can call myself a invertebrate but my bones are still on the inside

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            11 months ago

            China is socially conservative–and deeply authoritarian–but economically is officially communist (although not so much in practice, given that they have billionaires).

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    11 months ago

    I’ve been described by people as redneck, but I’m not remotely MAGA

    …and therefore I support Green Day dunking on MAGA instead of me XD

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    11 months ago

    Bullshit

    I’m born and raised in Appalachia, my daddy worked in the coal mines and drove an 18 wheeler. Certified redneck enough that I confuse the shit out of my New England neighbors.

    I went out and marched with striking nurses when Bernie put out the call, and I’ve never voted Republican in my entire fucking life.

    OP, you need to learn what a redneck is.

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    I live in Oklahoma, drive an Old Green Truck™, have a lazy dog of unknown breed, and I work in a machine shop. Last week my neighbor and I rebuilt a motorcycle engine and put it in his bike. My wife and I have chickens. I’m a pretty sterotypical “redneck”.

    I’ve voted democrat in every election since 2000.

    It sounds like OP is terribly confused, and is associating people from two different groups while they really have nothing in common, which is something MAGA dipshits also do.

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    This look MAGA to you OP?

    Pictured:

    • /r/liberalgunowners patch
    • Ukraine patch
    • Imperial Storm Trooper AR-15 (OK, you kinda got me on that one.)
    • wife’s Christmas present (hot pink Bersa Thunder .380)
    • Pilipino flag
    • 20-yo hat, bought before assholes took over the flag
    • 20-round mag, kinda prefer the 10s, standard 30s are a bit much for reasons

    Not pictured:

    OK, the crushed Keystone cans scream redneck, but not MAGA.

    To top it off, that’s in Florida, where it’s perfectly OK to paint us with a fat “conservative asshole who deserves whatever happens to them” brush.

    And 01/06 gave me fucking PTSD thank you very fucking much. And I don’t say that lightly.

    (Glad I took a minute on this post! Found some cool new patches.)

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      11 months ago

      Gonna be straight, the hand guard doesn’t scream MAGA, but it’s kinda borderline fudd-y. :P A carbon fiber M-LOK hand guard and a low-profile gas block would be better, unless you’re reeeeaaaaaalllllly attached to that A2 front sight post.

      I still prefer the 30 round magazines, since they’re cheap, easy to find, and are better for making it through high round count matches without lots of reloads. :)

      As an aside to all of that, when I talk to younger people at matches–I’m probably about your age, maybe a little older–many of them are in favor of things Dems say that they’re in favor of (except gun control). I think that’s one of the sticking points for a lot of the younger rednecks in rural parts of the country.

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        11 months ago

        Imma be dumb here, but I think the holes in the hand guard are M-LOK? Not looking to attach tools there in any case.

        low-profile gas block

        Uh, you lost me, but I’m listening. LOL, this is why I went with a plain Ruger Whiteout. Still learning, but didn’t want to fuck up rolling my own.

        And yes, I’m loving the A2 sight. Practicality aside, I saw this on sale and thought, “Huh. M16 in Star Wars? Sold.” The light is a normal Olight I happened to have, but it glares on the front sight. Can’t find it again, but someone posted a nice adapter that would throw it out further. Know what I’m talking about? Couldn’t find one at the time.

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          Apolopgies for this wall; I’m literally autistic, and guns have been one of my particular areas of interest for, um, 40-odd years.

          That style of hand guard, AFAIK, doesn’t accept M-LOK or keymod accessories. I can’t be sure though; what you’d be looking for is something like this -> https://www.aeroprecisionusa.com/ar15-atlas-s-one-m-lok-handguard The slots are what the M-LOK mounts go into. (Aero Precision is kinda pricey, IMO.) The added benefit is that it floats your barrel; it’s only connected to the upper receiver, and not the barrel, so you can get slightly better accuracy out of it.

          You can get the metal parts of the rifle cerakoted white, if that’s of interest to you.

          You can get a gas block that fits under your hand guard. That allows your hand guard can go all the way to the end of your barrel which gives you more options for mounting accessories and hand positioning. Gas blocks come in a variety of styles, but a fixed and pinned (e.g., held on with a roll pin) block will work for almost everyone. An adjustable gas block may be better for people that are running silencers, since that affects gas pressure in the system, but I have no direct experience with them since silencers are $$$. If you replace the hand guard with an M-LOK hand guard, you’ll need to replace the front sight with a low profile gas block.

          I’m personally not a fan of iron sights because my eyes suck. I use an LPVO and a canted red dot, and that’s worked very well for me. I can reliably hit targets out to 340y (or, that’s the longest I’ve shot to, and that was at a match), and there’s no way in hell I’d be able to to that with irons.

          FWIW, AR-15s are basically like Legos for adults; they’re almost infinitely modular, and most parts work just fine with other parts as long as they’re from reputable manufacturers.

          I don’t know about Olight adapters specifically, but I’ve seen LEP heads for Surefire bodies. IIRC the Blazer LEP Z-Bolt is good to at least 300y, and it’s bright. There’s very little spill; it’s very, very focused. I’ve shot out to 150y with a Streamlight ProTAC; it’s not great at that distance, but it works. It’s got a lot of spill and decent throw, so you still have peripheral sight.

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      11 months ago

      According to the US government, the most dangerous thing in this picture is that bag of Kinder Surprise chocolates

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        HWAT?! I have no idea where such chocolates came from.

        My wife is Filipina. Perhaps her godless island chain?! (They’re mostly Catholic, yeah I said it, godless papist idolators.)

        I’m MURICAN goddamnit! We respect the rule of law!

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    But musicians shouldn’t get political! That song was never political before! Wah!

    Heavy on the /s

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    I’m a lefty to the bone and have been since I was a kid. I’ve spent most of my life in the south and have met some amazing redneck folks that don’t fit into this mold.

    Basically, don’t put your potential working class allies into a box.

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    They’re not hicks.

    They’re fascists.