We are a nation of rules and the rules are boring. Embrace that. In times of difficulty, go with the boring option. When faced with a frightening crisis, tamp it down with ultra-boring moves. No matter what, stick with the rules.
I can’t avoid talking about Donald Trump but I’m going to make it brief. I know you don’t like him; neither do I. But let’s assume he’s only a politician. He’s not Hitler, Godzilla or the Beast of the Apocalypse—just a guy with a loud mouth and a desperate need for attention. Most Americans think of him that way.
This is not about him. It’s about you.
The judge is wrong. A civil trial cannot determine a criminal crime. Sounds like when this is appealed, this is a good ground to have the case overturned.
The jury said she was not raped and to me, that is the end of the discussion.
I agree with the jury. Guess you don’t like our legal system since you think the jury is wrong.
The jury and judge agree that Trump committed what in new York is called “sexual assault” by violently forcing his hands inside Carroll’s vagina without consent.
That is rape.
Or are you just advocating your support for “invasive sexual assault”?
You sound confused about what a convict is, since you keep using that word that does not apply here.
When you are in a criminal case and are found responsible for a criminal act, you are given the title “convict”.
When you are in a civil case, and you are found responsible for an act, you do not use the title “convict”, but use the term “liable”.
The jury and judge looked at the evidence, decided Trump committed rape, and in a civil case, found him liable for what in a couple of states, including New York, must be defined as “sexual assault” instead of rape.
The judge went out of his way to clarify that Trump did commit rape, since violently forcing your hand inside someone without their consent is rape.
The jury said it was not rape.
https://www.snopes.com/news/2023/05/09/trump-liable-sexual-abuse/
I like how you keep trying to explain it when you don’t understand it.
The jury said no. End of case. Even if they had said yes, it is still improper to say he’s a rapist since as snopes explains, that would be false.
So have a good night
The jury said yes to the legal NY definition of sexual assault, also known as rape.
The jury was not allowed to use the word “rape” in their findings because rape only refers to penises in New York.
The jury and judge agreed that he did violently force his hand inside Carroll’s vagina, which is rape, definitively.
It is weird that you’re supporting sexual assault, battery and defamation, and the jury and judge made it very clear that trump is responsible for rape.
trump is a rapist.
Dude, just take your L and go home. Either you don’t understand the material or you are trolling.
The jury made it very clear it was not rape. I have cited this three times to you. Since you kept trolling, this is my last response to you.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2023/05/trump-e-jean-carroll-verdict-rape-sexual-abuse.html
Providing the facts is not an L.
You’re agreeing with me:
The civil liability you keep referencing, that Trump committed “sexual assault” by forcing his hand inside Carol’s vagina without her consent, is rape.
trump is a rapist.
That has not been proven in criminal court. Civil Court has vastly lower standards than criminal court. At best, you’ve proven that there’s at least a few people who think Trump is a rapist, which we already knew.
The judge and jury, who saw and heard the evidence, found trump liable for sexual assault (trump forcing his hand inside someone’s vagina), battery and defamation.
Those “few people” are fairly significant as they are the people tasked with determining the responsibility of someone’s actions, like trump’s rape of Carroll.
The question was whether or not Donald Trump committed sexual assault by refusing to let a woman leave, forcing his hand inside someone’s vagina, and then lying about it and trying to ruin the reputation of the woman he raped.
Judge and jury says yes, that is what happened.
Alrighty then, I’m going to take winter’s lead and bow out. There’s no point in arguing with you, is there?