A warm start to the winter season has left the Great Lakes virtually ice-free and with their lowest ice cover to kick off a new year in at least 50 years.

On New Year’s Day, only 0.35% of the Great Lakes were covered in ice, the lowest on record for the date, and well below the historical average of nearly 10% for this point in winter, according to data from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration’s Great Lakes Environmental Research Laboratory (GLERL).

This year’s missing ice in the Great Lakes adds to a growing trend of winter ailments plaguing the US, from dwindling snowpacks in the West to an ongoing snow drought in the Northeast, all becoming more common due to warming temperatures from the climate crisis.

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        You mean those stinky fakers who were raking in all those bucks from… (checks notes) …“Big Science”?

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          About the second coming:

          The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything in it will be laid bare.

          It’s low key why a lot if people don’t want to do anything about it, they see it as the second coming of Christ

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            Some of them are trying to speed it up. War in Israel is exactly what they want because they think that all the Jews have to return there for Jesus to come back.

            This Jew ain’t goin’ to Israel. I’m an American, not an Israeli, and I have never had any interest in going to or supporting Israel. If I’m going to travel, I’ll travel to a country that isn’t constantly at war with a people they keep oppressed.

            Sorry to disappoint you, evangelicals. Guess Jesus isn’t coming back.

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    The rich and corporations are killing our planet. They don’t care if we die and people would rather save a hundred bucks on taxes than vote in their best interest.

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            You really think people are choosing to use fossil fuels at this point? Oh buddy, come to any city where public transit isn’t a thing because moneyed interests lobbied (and continue to lobby) against it, and you can see that there is no choice in the matter. It’s drive a gasoline-powered car or just don’t get to work/buy groceries for 95% of people in most places.

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            OK but then what’s your argument for those that don’t use fossil fuels?

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        There is no ethical consumption under capitalism. If there was a viable green alternative to transportation granted to us by our overlords, I’m sure most people would choose it.

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          You mean like taking a bike or walking? Let’s not be silly here, I live in a small town right outside a big city. There is a train in my town that goes into the city, it’s highly walkable, there are buses that run within a block of my house into the city. . .and people still drive everywhere.

          We’re all to blame for this. While I think the best way to tackle it is to put the burden on the corporations, as it’s much easier to centralize the changes, trying to pretend like the individual has no say in this is the same blame shift of corporations trying to claim it’s the individual who needs to change. Everyone wants it to be convenient and cheap and fast. We all need to shift how we think about things.

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            There is a train from my town to the one I work in. There is one train per day in either direction. The morning train would get me to the train station about five minutes before my shift, and it’s a 15-20 minute walk from the station to the office, so that doesn’t work. The evening train is late enough that catching it isn’t a problem, but I’d have to figure out how to kill 45 minutes every day. If I got my schedule adjusted to make the morning train workable I’d miss the evening train. If your goal was to technically offer a public transit option while making it completely impractical so no one would use it, it would look exactly like what I have.

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              The poster made the claim that if it were available, most people would use it. It’s not available to you. So your position is not part of what I am pointing to.

              The reality is that even when it is available, most people don’t use it, because driving is very convenient, good for being lazy, comfortable, and doesn’t require much thinking.

              Make no mistake about it. We just want to blame corporations, because it’s easier and more comfortable than blaming ourselves and it makes it easy to justify changing nothing in your own life. It’s an uncomfortable reality that people just don’t want to accept.

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                The reality is that even when it is available, most people don’t use it, because it isn’t actually available in a way that would make it fast, comfortable, and in a way that doesn’t require much thinking. It’s strategically available while remaining useless and that must change before anyone will be able to rely on it.

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                  It’s not even remotely useless where I live. The bus comes every 10 or so minutes during the day, and I just looked at the train schedule and there averages a train about every 40 minutes throughout the day (obviously more clustered around rush hours).

                  You can always find a reason it’s not convenient enough to use. I know, I’ve done it myself. It doesn’t quite get close to where we’re going, so we would have to walk a bunch or transfer on the other end. It’s faster to drive. It’s cheaper to drive (when there are 4 of us) if I think I can find parking. It’s cold. It’s too hot.

                  The reality is that it’s almost always going to be more convenient to drive, unless something drastically changes. It’s blame shifting, just like corporations are trying to do.

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    Scientists 40 years ago - “The Earth is going to start warming and it’s gonna cause issues”

    40 years later

    Issues - Exist

    The media - “wHaT iS hApPeNiNg!?!?!?!?”

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      Scientists 40 years ago - “The Earth is going to start warming and it’s gonna cause issues”

      40 years later

      Issues - Exist

      The media - “wHaT iS hApPeNiNg!?!?!?!?”

      A bunch of idiots online: " it’s just El ninio. I like warm weather."

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    Next year, we’ll probably see catastrophic algal blooms, as the cold at least killed off a lot of it. Next year, it will have a massive head start. Microcystins and hypoxic water will kill wildlife and poison the drinking water.

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      I can’t pretend to predict the future but I imagine scientists everywhere are in a perpetual state of “oh fuck. Oh fuck. Oh fuck. Oh fuck.” Waiting to see what happens and how bad it’s gonna be.

      It’s gonna be bad. Real bad

      We reap what we sow and we been sowing this for decades.

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        This current melt is also due to localized factors, like the El Nino event we are going through, making the climate-change-induced ice reduction greatly exacerbated. Ice on the Great Lakes has been declining for 50 years.

        Just as no Congressperson should be bringing in snow alls to refute climate change, we should also keep in mind that weather and climate are vastly different things.

        Remember to bring this up in a couple years when Republicans are talking about how the ice is back so climate change isn’t real.

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      I stopped drinking milk!

      Good thing Taylor swift is allowed to fucking take her jet to a city 30 mins away though. 🙄

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    Maybe if companies do drive more green washing to avoid regulation, it will totally help. /s

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    I never thought that in 10 years, we’d go from one of the coldest UP winters I’d ever seen to one of the warmest. This was my first Christmas and New Years in 30 years where I didn’t see snow on the ground. It’s sad to see.

    I worry how this will mess with the following seasons. With the lack of ice, the lake levels drop faster because the water can evaporate. Pair that with liquid water’s darker color, means it will heat up faster and evaporate that much more water.
    The lack of snow means we’ll have lower spring runoff than normal. So the lakes won’t get replenished as spring arrives. This could send us into drought conditions really quickly.

    All of this will lead to plummeting lake levels. I wonder if it’ll reach the levels from 2007-2012.

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      I’m in the LP and my snow tires haven’t had any use all season yet. This shit is serious

      Edit: we just got our first winter weather advisory of the season!!! What coincidence lol

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    Oh well, did all i could afford and the government demanded more by increasing the cost of living…pushing me in the reds with an employer that can’t afford to increase the wage.

    Good luck y’all…i just stuck around to watch it all burn, so maybe i do get lucky in the end.

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      if your employer can’t afford to pay a living wage, the business should not exist, tho he is most likely just lying to you for those record profits.

      also, it wouldn’t really impact you if rich people stopped taking private jets everywhere, and cruise ships shut down…

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        Show me a business that’s actually doing well within cycling range and i’ll probably apply for a job there, if it’s within my skillset.

        My current job is far too boring and i hate having to “look busy” for 6h a day because i’d rather use that time to work on myself, interests and skills.