Maybe it wasn’t like that, but the only times I interacted with the nonewnormal subreddit, I was floored by the rampant disinformation and dumb AF takes by most users. I understand why most other sub wanted nothing to do with it.
Also having beehaw defederate from other big instances is kinda the same as not wanting some subreddit communities interacting with your own (ie banning you because you participate in the same space as others we don’t want)
I understand why most other sub wanted nothing to do with it.
Totally fair enough. But Reddit already had a mechanism in place to deal with that - quarantine. Watching a ban-brigade take place across Reddit because they don’t like them was downright dystopian.
I don’t think beehaw’s mods are in a power trip. They want to keep their community with like minded people and having open instances that are difficult to moderate on your own is not the best way for that. All in all, for me it’s federation going right. Instead of brigading, they put it on hold for the time being
Somebody else said it best, I think - Beehaw is using the wrong tools for what they want to be. They should have been simply a bbs-style forum instead of a federated instance.
If you want to have a curated safe-space that’s totally fine, but when you also want to be a part of a larger community then you get to deal with that larger community, for better or worse.
Beehaw isn’t in the wrong really. The moderation tools simply don’t allow them to moderate the massive influx of new users. I fully expect them to re-federate once the moderation tools mature to the point where they can keep the quality of the communities where they want it.
I don’t like that they used the nuclear option so quickly, but I understand their reasoning.
Maybe it wasn’t like that, but the only times I interacted with the nonewnormal subreddit, I was floored by the rampant disinformation and dumb AF takes by most users. I understand why most other sub wanted nothing to do with it.
Also having beehaw defederate from other big instances is kinda the same as not wanting some subreddit communities interacting with your own (ie banning you because you participate in the same space as others we don’t want)
Totally fair enough. But Reddit already had a mechanism in place to deal with that - quarantine. Watching a ban-brigade take place across Reddit because they don’t like them was downright dystopian.
Did they (Reddit admins) quarantine the sub ? Or did they do nothing like most other problematic subs until the community said enough?
It was quarantined, yes.
I kinda agree but they also applied the same stuff to /r/LockdownSkepticism too which was much more reasonable.
Yeah, beehaw is acting just like the power-tripping supermods.
I never saw any post from there so can’t comment.
I don’t think beehaw’s mods are in a power trip. They want to keep their community with like minded people and having open instances that are difficult to moderate on your own is not the best way for that. All in all, for me it’s federation going right. Instead of brigading, they put it on hold for the time being
Yeah, I just wish they’d done that from the start instead of the confusing bait 'n switch.
Somebody else said it best, I think - Beehaw is using the wrong tools for what they want to be. They should have been simply a bbs-style forum instead of a federated instance.
If you want to have a curated safe-space that’s totally fine, but when you also want to be a part of a larger community then you get to deal with that larger community, for better or worse.
Beehaw isn’t in the wrong really. The moderation tools simply don’t allow them to moderate the massive influx of new users. I fully expect them to re-federate once the moderation tools mature to the point where they can keep the quality of the communities where they want it.
I don’t like that they used the nuclear option so quickly, but I understand their reasoning.