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My favorite detail is that one of the vertical solutions is a Star Wars quote only if you choose “Star Trek” as the horizontal solution!
Caught my eye on that too, brilliant
The Star wars fans will recognize the quote and have to solve for Star Trek. Aka they were trapped.
But stargate doesn’t work so clearly the puzzle is wrong.
Indeed
Tau’ri kree!
It would be amazing if they somehow made a solution that worked for that too.
lol. That’s the only series I enjoyed out of the three.
One newspaper once did this with the two presidential candidates on election day and everyone was like “how did they know”
Wonderful. I love clever people doing clever things.
Funny… I don’t see BATTLESTAR GALACTICA
Best of these that fit the space, obviously.
Which is why I’m confused what’s going on after putting in STARGATE.
“It’s a grap!” (Graded response action plan. Sure why not)
Waist (still works)
Payets (the family of footballer Dmitri Payet, who I’m sure have been involved in transactions at one point or another)
Leaeed (ah yeah STARGATE is wrong, never mind)
I’m pretty sure getting leaeed involves becoming “let out, in a way” so maybe you were onto something after all
You spelled Firefly wrong
That’s weird, Dark Matter doesn’t look like that when I type it.
I loved star werk
You had this queued up when you posted this didn’t you?
I’m pretty sure I’ve seen something similar with Clinton and Bob Dole. It’s actually really creative and made some people believe that the newspaper can predict the future, when in reality, half of those people thought that they predicted incorrectly when it was apparent that Clinton got elected.
Pretty sure that I first found out about this through a Vsauce video.
Exactly that. Thanks.
Clever but makes me feel bad for Star Wars fans who continue to be misled.
Yeah, it’s not actually a sci-fi franchise at all, according to George Lucas himself.
https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/movies/a32507/george-lucas-sundance-quotes/
Star Trek is more fantasy than Star Wars is though.
Vulcans = space elves Klingons = space orcs
Wizards running around casting spells and everyone just shrugs it off like it’s no big deal. Magic teleportation devices that have inconsistent abilities. Is it actually the same person that comes out on the other side? Nobody in that world even considers that. Characters say nonsense technobabble incantations and problems are magically solved.
At one point Q says he can change the constants in physics. Instead of that completely changing how everything thinks about science, Geordie just shrugs it off, “well we can’t do that, only a Q can do that.” Like hold up, Q changes a constant it proves it isn’t actually a constant, shouldn’t that fundamentally change how they’re considering everything about physics? Nope, because Q is magic, he doesn’t follow the rules of science. And everyone just accepts that.
Meanwhile in Star Wars the existence of some individuals with telekinetic, empathic, and prescient capabilities shapes their entire society. The only thing close to this in Star Trek is the Bajorans considering the wormhole aliens to be prophets. And it’s made out to be kinda strange they think this way. They’re just aliens with magical abilities, why are you making such a big deal about this, Bajorans? We see this kind of thing every other week, and don’t even bother to figure out how it works and how to reproduce it in a lab or follow any kind of scientific process. Aliens are magic, no big deal.
Imagine how lame Star Wars would be if they explained the Force was due to microscopic aliens? That would be silly of course, but that’s the level Star Trek is at isn’t it? Aliens = magic, don’t question it.
To me science fiction is about exploring the ramifications of things that don’t exist in our world. If some people did have special abilities I feel like it would have an impact on that world. Star Trek doesn’t explore this all that much because it’s closer to Homer’s Odyssey where the ship encounters some weird magical thing, the crew has to escape and on to the next magical thing.
There’s never a thought of “could someone that’s not a space elf do a mind meld?” Nope because only the space elves have the mind meld magic. Could someone build a technology that could do a mind meld? No! Only space elves can do the mind meld magic. That’s just how it works. Don’t question it. It’s magic.
People in Star Wars put a religious significance on the special abilities some people have. Some people doubt these abilities even exist because it seems too fantastical. There are religious wars fought among people with these abilities. People use these abilities to gain positions of power, and create tyrannical regimes around it.
That makes more sense to me than everyone being like “This alien can read minds, no big deal. This alien can see the future, no big deal. This alien can change gravitational constants, no big deal.”
Don’t get me wrong, I like Star Trek and all, DS9 most of all because it’s the most like Star Wars. It actually explores the ramifications of there being people with powerful abilities. Most of Star Trek doesn’t actually do that. Because it’s not really science fiction.
Star Trek is fantasy.
Sorry.
Interesting writeup. I am reminded of the (Asimov?) quote “any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic”. When SciFi or fantasy take place in the future, it can be difficult to tell which category they belong to. As our technology advances, we can retrospectively place them in one category or another.
“Fiction versus fantasy, one fact remains unclear: How you pretend both franchises stand solely on one tier?”
I have nothing to add, I just love the band and will take any chance to share their song, it’s about both fandom.
furiously scratching out star rats haha yea i noticed that too
startark
Crossword makers should be in charge of everything.
I wish I did better with crosswords, sometimes I can fill out 5-10 answers but it’s so sparse it’s hard to check myself.
There are easier puzzles out there. If you didn’t know, generally the easiest puzzles are on Monday, and they get harder everyday of the week. I use an app called Forkyz (on F-Droid, not sure if it’s on play store, but I know there are similar apps) that downloads several crosswords. Try Monday’s Thomas Joseph or Sheffer for some easier puzzles.
This isn’t exactly groundbreaking advice, but keep practicing
After you do enough of them you’ll start to see a lot of repeat clues.
hey you could always feel worse: https://www.theguardian.com/crosswords/cryptic/29285
this is dreadful
9 across is one of my favorites.
“Loves speed and energy” = OOMPH (as in “oomph” is a word meaning energy, or 'Oo! Miles-per-hour!" as in “loves speed”).
True, Star Twerk truly is the best 👌
What days NYT crossword was it? Todays?
Of course not. This is Lemmy, where like 90% of our memes are hand-me-downs. It was about a year ago.
90%? Boy are you an optimist. I don’t think any site that has meaningful traffic is as low as 90%
The exception being Star Trek memes, oddly enough.
It wasn’t any time recently; I have been playing nyt crossword every day for several months now.
I’m definitely not thinking of “leased” with that clue, so I probably would’ve ended up with Trek.
You don’t have to make excuses for being a Trekkie
To “let” or “let out” something means it’s available for rent or lease. If you ever happen to see a sign in a window that says “Apartment to Let”, that’s what it means. In my experience, it’s more of a British English term than an American English term. Still not wrong, though.
I’m so glad this post made it to my front page. I was not aware of this community and I’m a huge puzzle nerd. Subbed!
Welcome! This sub is usually sparse save for LCP’s daily addition, so feel free to contribute
Too bad the most recent Sunday puzzle was just a Business pun theme. Although, the Two-Possible-Answers puzzles tend to glitch up on the app, had to get tech support to fix my streak.
Also, people new to crosswords- they do this shit all the time. Look up Rebus squares, they’re pretty insane. A little while ago I had to place three squares each with the word “bus” in each square for an Evel Knievel themed puzzle not too long ago. Think it was a Thursday, which is common for rebuses.
