The US wanted to strike Iranian targets without retaliation in order to not lose face globally. Tehran says no. If I were serving on a US military base in the Middle East, I’d be looking for ways to take leave because things are about to get hot.
Why did the US want to strike Iranian targets?
Iran is the world’s fifth most resource-rich country, with the second largest natural gas reserves and the fourth largest crude oil reserves, and with a total value of resources amounting to $27.3 trillion.
https://arabcenterdc.org/resource/iran-a-resource-rich-country-reeling-from-rampant-poverty/
“In 1951, Mohammad Mosaddegh was elected Prime Minister of Iran, voted in by the legislature and confirmed by the Shah. Mosaddegh became enormously popular after he nationalized the oil industry of Iran, which had been largely controlled by foreign interests. He worked to weaken the monarchy of Mohammad Reza Pahlavi until Mosaddegh was removed in the 1953 Iranian coup d’état—initially an Anglo-American covert operation that marked the first time the United States had participated in an overthrow of a foreign government during the Cold War”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran#1951–1978:_Mosaddegh,_Mohammad_Reza_Pahlavi
There’s a reason Iranians call the US The Great Satan.
Because Iran is resposible for the deaths of three US service members in Jordan and the wounding of dozens more.
Hitting Iran in Iran was never a likely scenario, though. The response will almost certainly be to Iran-aligned terrorist and/or militia groups outside of Iranian borders. There’s a small chance that it will be to direct Iranian assets outside Iranian borders, but most people in the FA space don’t think that this is going to happen, either.
To not lose face, didn’t you read?
Biden is groveling for israel there is no face to save
Why? Didn’t you read what Iran said? They said if we strike in Iran, they strike an asset in the Middle East. That is saying If you hit me, I’ll break one of your toys because I’m afraid to face you directly. After all Iran’s bravado and muscle flexing, they are freaking cowards.
Because unlike your power fantasies of the big strong US in the real world people get hurt when countries get into wars or even smaller conflicts, even if they are not an existential threat to both countries.
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I’m so glad my government was wise enough to make peace with Iran despite the US’s objection.
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- Gives weapons to group saying they’ll exterminate Palestinians
- Group uses weapons to attack Palestinians
- Palestinian allies are upset about the situation
- Don’t threaten me bro!
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You missed the step where the US was bankrolling a genocide
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The US FAFO. Now it is on us to deliver it another defeat. The Afghans aren’t better than us, we too can be victorious.
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Pretty sad to win every battle and still lose the war
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I do not like where this thread went…
Welcome to Lemmy.ml.
Home to plenty of cosplay communists who unironically support Christian Nationalist Russia, the Taliban, Hamas and the Islamic Republic of Iran. They see a guy supporting the Taliban? They give that guy an upvote, because that’s the kind of top mind left-wing anti-imperialist they are. I’m sure someone will be around shortly to ‘whatabout Israel’ me and suggest I’ve got to pick a side.
The whole place is a shithole filled to the brim with teenaged contrarians. At least I hope they’re mostly teenagers, pretty pathetic if they aren’t.
I don’t know why I haven’t blocked the entire instance. Most people in the fediverse have.
The sad thing is, these horrible people infect left wing parties, and really hinder political progress. Last I checked, in the US some of them even turned on Bernie Sanders, because he pointed out that Hamas are less than super.
And sure, some of the users here are ok, but as the saying goes: “If 9 people sit down at a table with 1 Nazi without protest, there are 10 Nazis at the table.” People here are often ok with people who support some of the most right wing religious extremists out there.
You know, Iran was once a nice democratic country, not so long ago. Only to get a coup organized by the most democratic and peaceful country ever and installing a bloody dictator instead.
Yes, I did know that history happened. Did you know that this doesn’t make Iran or its proxies the good guys?
Did you know that German nationalism and militarism can be traced back to the thirty years war, and that thanks to the involvement of foreign powers areas of modern Germany experienced population declines of over 50%. Did you know that Germans being victims in that war, doesn’t mean the Nazis were the good guys?
You know, Israel once had a ceasefire with Hamas not so long ago. Only to get attacked by Hamas on October the 7th. Did you also know that this doesn’t mean Israel are the good guys and that this is not a valid excuse for Israel arguably committing crimes against humanity in Gaza?
Did you know that the Umayyad Caliphate colonised Southern Spain? Did you know that this doesn’t mean the Spanish and European far-right are the good guys when they use the story of the reconquista to justify their Islamophobia?
What’s that? Too much history? We’re only allowed to go back to 1953?
But hey, thank you for proving my point about lemmy.ml being full of contrarian and anti-imperialist top minds. The kind of people who think they’re left wing, but then make excuses for an Islamic theocracy which kills young women for protesting for their rights.
the us can always just sell them a bunch of weapons to fund terrorists in central america again…
I honestly feel like Iran’s proxies have more clout than Iran.
Hamas staged a losing war for a long period which is still going. Houthis disrupted world trade by targeting ships off coast.
Meanwhile Iran got harassed by Pakistan for using some light artillery on some probably random Balochis.
It doesn’t really matter if they have the weapons when they can’t really use them all that effectively themselves.
Well maybe they’ll attack a us ship on their own next time instead of delegating their dirty work 🤷
Yes, because what the US needs right now is another hot war, it is wise to encourage escalation into a direct conflict with Iran.
You do understand that will just make the US empire crumble faster, right?
Sorry for wanting iran to make open moves instead of their usual paying other groups to do their dirty work.
I don’t want another war, nobody does. These games that are being played aren’t mine, I am just judging the players.
This is just idealist bs
Idealist? Sure.
Accurate to how I feel about the situation? Also yes.
Why are you mad about what I want?
Because of the bloodthirstiness. You can conceptualize that actual people would die right? At much larger scales?
On one hand, we shouldn’t be going around picking fights.
In the other hand, lol try us.
Who is “we” and “us” here
US us.
Ah. As a citizen of the US I dont use “we” and “us” when referring to the US state.
So?
Because it is not necessarily great to subsume your identity to an empire
And that’s what you’ve decided this is?
Why else would you speak of the US state as if you were a part of it, with “we” and “us”?
