Australia’s government has released a new transport climate policy. But it doesn’t deal with the problem of car bloat: the main driver of rising emissions.
I don’t think big cars are especially bad. Imho the issue is at-will vehicle license. We should give them to people who need it for work or really can’t do otherwise.
EDIT: before you downvote, please consider if you have conflict of interest in this. If you are a polluter yourself, you are not rational.
This would straight up not work for the vast majority of the US. Public transit in most areas of the country is an absolute joke. That sort of policy would basically be tantamount to revoking poor people’s ability to travel any meaningful distance.
Ok, so first of all, the fact that I am getting downvoted shows the extend of car-related propaganda, even in “leftists” and “ecologically conscious” space. It’s sad, really, I thought I would belong here. Apparently not :(
Seconds, as I said above, they won’t put trainlines on a route where everybody’s taking their cars already.
I think you are getting downvoted by a mix of people who think about it being a bit ableist policy (even tho you did include that for people who need it they should be able to take it) but also just because it’s full of US people. They are just 4% of the world population yet they act like we should talk about solutions taking them into account everytime. It’s one of the reasons that made me give ownership of slrpnk to another person, I feel like it’s a bit pointless to talk about organizing while the userbase is so spread and often so US focussed, they are basically behind in every policy.
I think you’re right. I’d want pay-per-use, networked vehicles I don’t own but can opt in to use. Also want “Call car” button in every home so if you need to go to work, get groceries etc, you push it an within 10 mins a vehicle rolls up for use.
I don’t think it’ll fly until we have reliable, safe self driving (so lol, not a Tesla) and we change our attitude towards what a vehicle is for, and why to own one.
Owing a vehicle today has been twisted into a statement of one’s “rugged individualism” (coughs mass produced car coughs) and threats to this are an attack on “muh FREEDERMS”. Just watch literally any dodge ram commercial, or anything for an SUV where a starry eyed child is being driven through a forest by parents in an SUV. It’s an image, manufactured want. Not need.
I agree. Realistically I think cars still have their places in society for people who work and stuff. But ffs let’s put decent train and trolleys and buses services first, at least in urban area.
I don’t care that much about americans. They are a lost cause with 100x the footprint of a normal person. Most countries have trains. I’m speaking about normal countries, not settler-colonialists ones who covered the land they emptied with low-density labyrinth like suburbs.
Seriously how first world can you be? A car alone cost more money than most of the world yearly salary. Only westerners would think it’s necessary to live.
I don’t think big cars are especially bad. Imho the issue is at-will vehicle license. We should give them to people who need it for work or really can’t do otherwise.
EDIT: before you downvote, please consider if you have conflict of interest in this. If you are a polluter yourself, you are not rational.
Nothing’s as badfaithed as a vroomer.
This would straight up not work for the vast majority of the US. Public transit in most areas of the country is an absolute joke. That sort of policy would basically be tantamount to revoking poor people’s ability to travel any meaningful distance.
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Then it needs to come with the right to public transport. And as access to transit becomes available access to cars requires a business need.
Ok, so first of all, the fact that I am getting downvoted shows the extend of car-related propaganda, even in “leftists” and “ecologically conscious” space. It’s sad, really, I thought I would belong here. Apparently not :(
Seconds, as I said above, they won’t put trainlines on a route where everybody’s taking their cars already.
I think you are getting downvoted by a mix of people who think about it being a bit ableist policy (even tho you did include that for people who need it they should be able to take it) but also just because it’s full of US people. They are just 4% of the world population yet they act like we should talk about solutions taking them into account everytime. It’s one of the reasons that made me give ownership of slrpnk to another person, I feel like it’s a bit pointless to talk about organizing while the userbase is so spread and often so US focussed, they are basically behind in every policy.
Just move on, don’t worry my friend
Thanks friend I appreciate :)
I think you’re right. I’d want pay-per-use, networked vehicles I don’t own but can opt in to use. Also want “Call car” button in every home so if you need to go to work, get groceries etc, you push it an within 10 mins a vehicle rolls up for use.
I don’t think it’ll fly until we have reliable, safe self driving (so lol, not a Tesla) and we change our attitude towards what a vehicle is for, and why to own one.
Owing a vehicle today has been twisted into a statement of one’s “rugged individualism” (coughs mass produced car coughs) and threats to this are an attack on “muh FREEDERMS”. Just watch literally any dodge ram commercial, or anything for an SUV where a starry eyed child is being driven through a forest by parents in an SUV. It’s an image, manufactured want. Not need.
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I agree. Realistically I think cars still have their places in society for people who work and stuff. But ffs let’s put decent train and trolleys and buses services first, at least in urban area.
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I don’t care that much about americans. They are a lost cause with 100x the footprint of a normal person. Most countries have trains. I’m speaking about normal countries, not settler-colonialists ones who covered the land they emptied with low-density labyrinth like suburbs.
Seriously how first world can you be? A car alone cost more money than most of the world yearly salary. Only westerners would think it’s necessary to live.