• JaymesRS@literature.cafe
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    9 months ago

    How much food including fruits and vegetables like garlic or mushrooms do you suspect we import from China?

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      9 months ago

      Not that much. The US is really good at producing food, and Mexico is right there for year round growing as well.

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        9 months ago

        I had to go look it up, it’s more than I thought, but not as much as I ultimately expected. I included all food products for completeness. 2023 numbers:

        | product | value | year| |——————————-|———-|———| | Fish, crustaceans, molluscs, aquatics invertebrates | $1.31B | 2023 | | Animal, vegetable fats and oils, cleavage products | $850.73M | 2023 | | Vegetable, fruit, nut food preparations |$833.00M | 2023 | | Miscellaneous edible preparations | $670.05M | 2023 | | Edible vegetables and certain roots and tubers | $358.31M | 2023 | | Meat, fish and seafood preparations | $278.46M | 2023 | | Cereal, flour, starch, milk preparations and products | $248.89M | 2023 | | Coffee, tea, mate and spices | $233.34M | 2023 | | Sugars and sugar confectionery | $204.28M | 2023 | | Oil seed, oleagic fruits, grain, seed, fruits | $171.07M | 2023 | | Edible fruits, nuts, peel of citrus fruit, melons | $131.20M | 2023 |

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          9 months ago

          So about 1% of food imports. The US also exports about 5-10x that amount to China. Source

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      9 months ago

      most all of our food comes either domestically, or mexico.

      We actually export more food (soy beans, in particular) to china.

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        9 months ago

        I’m aware, but I also know that we get a sizable chunk of our imports of garlic and mushrooms from China.

        Like I said, it is more than I thought, but less than I expected. Given how global a lot of products are anymore, it wouldn’t have surprised me if it was more than the 2023 numbers showed.

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          9 months ago

          It is, however, a very insignificant amount of our overall food; and trade is not quite the same thing as directly sending money and arms.

          Keep in mind, part of why we accept their trade at all is to maintain some influence with their policies. Which historically, was the reason we gave Israel so much aid- to give us a leash.

          But it has become clear that Biden and basically everyone else is unwilling to yank that leash. Which means, we’re directly supporting genocide.

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      9 months ago

      Maybe I wasn’t clear, as I was trying to follow the metaphor of Biden being the equivalent of “eating your vegetables”. Biden has been sending arms to Israel as it commits genocide, publicly locking arms with them no matter the attrocity of the day, and actively protecting them from consequences in the UN. So he’s not just some boring politician doing a good job even if he’s not inspiring. He’s a actively contributing to crimes against humanity. Supporting Biden, and by extension genocide in Gaza, just to avoid Trump is not like eating vegetables, which are not tasty but good for you.

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        9 months ago

        it’s also important that rhetoric aside, his actions are very clearly supportive. Funding, arms sales/shipments, blocking UN resolutions calling for a ceasefire.

        Given that Biden could* veto any funding bill (that’d probably be suicide given the riders,); is the one who decides to use veto powers at the UN security council… and went out of his way to expedite arms sales

        …there is zero question in my mind he’s 100% israel as it commits genocide.