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    We came to visit Russia as tourists

    Boy, my sympathy went to 0 pretty damn fast. Might as well have said they went to Nazi Germany as tourists.

    edit: grammar

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        That’s utterly vile, especially considering that India fought against the Nazis during WWII. I can’t imagine being one of the soldiers that came back alive and seeing that shit in my own country.

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          Don’t forget they fought against Nazi Germany because Britain owned them and forced them too.

          Frankly I assume they’d have rather sat the whole thing out and as such I doubt they really cared all too much about a European conflict.

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            It wasn’t just a European issue. They had a name for these types of issues

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              The

              Europe and European colonies plus Japan wanting to join in with European imperialism War?

              Or

              Europe and European colonies plus Japan wanting to do its own European imperialism after being stiffed last time War?

              The world aspect was because Europe decided it owned the world, not because it was the worlds war.

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                  During the Second World War (1939–1945), India was a part of the British Empire. British India officially declared war on Nazi Germany

                  Sure is a lot of Britain in there. Almost like India had no say in the matter🤔

                  How much of the world war was European colonial powers forcing natives of the lands they had invaded to fight their battles for them? Like I said it was a European war, just because every battlefield wasn’t in Europe doesn’t change that.

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                    I didn’t speak to the colonial link to England. Keep reading, not all of India was unified on that decision, and the time period played a critical role towards independence.

                    Further, operations were based out of the country, regarding other theaters of war in Asia. Are you familiar with where India and Myanmar (then Burma) are located?

                    I get what your trying to do so I’ll head you off: colonialism is wrong, and India DID get dragged into the conflict. I’m not contesting that.

                    All I was highlighting is conflict occurred in the area, and India was involved in several different ways.

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                    You’re forgetting the entire Pacific War, which had little to do with Europe. You’re forgetting Japan invading China and interrupting the civil war. You’re forgetting Japan invading every island in between them and New Guinea.

                    Your comment infantilizes local groups who used the war to settle local or regional rivalries. Colonial subjects were not idiots being used. They took up sides based on their goals and historical alliances.

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          They’re rolling in their graves seeing how India dehumanizes and treats Muslims. It’s a slow rolling genocide that doesn’t get much attention.

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      I don’t know if media coverage and public awareness about the atrocities are high enough in India to make that judgement.

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          The argument is basically “they’ve never done anything to us, so we’re good”. But yeah the cheap stuff must help.

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        Or maybe it’s just a bad idea to play tourist in countries that are engaged in active war

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          Weird how you just moved the goalposts from “Russia is a bad nation” to “it’s only bad because it’s in active war.”

          You will never acknowledge how you’re a victim of propaganda, indoctrination, and tribalism.

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            I’m not OP lol

            To me this story is about idiots visiting a nation at war and ending up a part of it. Big surprise

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                Lemmy is a discussion site my dude, replying to comments is what it’s for. If you don’t want replies, send a PM

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                  Yes, but you’re replying to comments that have nothing to do with what you’re saying.

                  Just start your own chain instead of trying to hijack others.

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                    you’re replying to comments that have nothing to do with what you’re saying

                    Makes irrelevant comments like “You are a victim of propaganda, indoctrination, and tribalism.”

                    Ok I’ll stop feeding the trolls now, have yourself a nice day

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        Got any links to news stories about tourists in Ukraine getting forced into fighting for them.

        Take your time. I’ll wait.

        Or how about Ukraine intentionally targeting missiles at apartment buildings and purely civilian infrastructure with no military value just to murder and terrorize people just trying to live their lives.

        If there’s anyone here that’s a victim of propaganda and indoctrination, you’ll find them in the mirror.

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          What does that have to do with anything?

          Why are you so delusional to set up bullshit criteria and think you should be taken seriously by rational people?