Pretty much - Biden is doing better than any other president but we need a much more aggressive climate action change. Every other president has gotten an F on climate change. Biden eeked out a C- that’s better but not good.
Well… if the United States as a whole is hell-bent on climate destruction and in total denial that the whole thing is even a priority in the first place, and bringing Biden into the equation suddenly brought the result output up to a C-, what does that mean Biden’s contribution to the average is?
I’m not trying to say to take a break on forward progress or give him any kind of undeserved credit. But it seems very weird to pick out the one guy out of the whole in-power class who produced a detectable step forward, and then try to say that because the step wasn’t big enough that means he’s a big problem.
You misunderstand, I’m not picking on the one guy. I protested Bush and Obama’s mishandling of climate change and would have done the same for Trump and Biden if I was still in the states. Biden is the best of those four but still not good enough - and there are politicians he could tap to make more effective changes.
You misunderstand, I’m not picking on the one guy.
Just saying he sucks? Because he only made 40% progress with almost the entire rest of the system rigged against him?
I mean, if you want to walk it back to “he made some progress but it’s very small in comparison to the scale of the problem and we need more,” then like I say, I can definitely agree with that statement. But I’m not feeling like I misunderstood anything of what you said initially. I just think it wasn’t at all the same as these more recent more reasonable statements.
Makes perfect sense. I committed a rookie mistake. Almost everything you actually said, I more or less agree with. (Although, the infrastructure bill has the largest investment in public transit in America’s history; it just was in there as opposed to the climate bill.) But yeah most of my real irritation was directed at the first guy.
Pretty much - Biden is doing better than any other president but we need a much more aggressive climate action change. Every other president has gotten an F on climate change. Biden eeked out a C- that’s better but not good.
Well… if the United States as a whole is hell-bent on climate destruction and in total denial that the whole thing is even a priority in the first place, and bringing Biden into the equation suddenly brought the result output up to a C-, what does that mean Biden’s contribution to the average is?
I’m not trying to say to take a break on forward progress or give him any kind of undeserved credit. But it seems very weird to pick out the one guy out of the whole in-power class who produced a detectable step forward, and then try to say that because the step wasn’t big enough that means he’s a big problem.
You misunderstand, I’m not picking on the one guy. I protested Bush and Obama’s mishandling of climate change and would have done the same for Trump and Biden if I was still in the states. Biden is the best of those four but still not good enough - and there are politicians he could tap to make more effective changes.
Just saying he sucks? Because he only made 40% progress with almost the entire rest of the system rigged against him?
I mean, if you want to walk it back to “he made some progress but it’s very small in comparison to the scale of the problem and we need more,” then like I say, I can definitely agree with that statement. But I’m not feeling like I misunderstood anything of what you said initially. I just think it wasn’t at all the same as these more recent more reasonable statements.
Ooh, I’m not that dude, my first comment in this thread was the third one - I think that was the source of confusion.
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Makes perfect sense. I committed a rookie mistake. Almost everything you actually said, I more or less agree with. (Although, the infrastructure bill has the largest investment in public transit in America’s history; it just was in there as opposed to the climate bill.) But yeah most of my real irritation was directed at the first guy.