• spacecowboy
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      It’s not edgy, it’s realistic and uncomfortable.

      • Literally the only Force that isn’t worse than the US is the EU. As long as they don’t want to step up and take the Mantle, the US “defending its Interests” and spreading democratic Values across the globe is the best Thing that can happen.

        Do you think that the US defending its interests in Ukraine and helping them is a bad Idea? Or that defending their Interests in Taiwan and helping them is a bad Idea? Or did you think that the US ousting the Taliban and giving Girls an Education and Future was a bad Idea? Or that defending global Shipping from Houthi-Terrorism is a bad Idea?

        stop with this edgy “America Bad” Mentality. It is not representative of our world.

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          Weren’t the Afghan Taliban backed by the US in a proxy war against the Soviets?

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          It literally says “There is no problem”. All the examples you give are problems. You’re arguing for drone strikes for shits and giggles

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          Unfortunately, it’s always “defending US interests” which is the problem. Historically, US interests have been counter to strong local independent governments. The US has interests in low cost labor and natural resources. There are still a lot of people in the US gov. that are only incentivised to do the right thing if they get a major perk or kick back from doing it. I like to think that we’re getting more progressive, and stepping away from the abhorrent shit our grandparents did to South/Central America, but then we get shit like trump withholding support from Ukraine unless they are willing to smear his political rivals. Then it becomes clear that there is still a very influential “old guard” in the government that prevents the US from actually defending the welfare of the many from the benefit of the few.

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          Do you think that the US defending its interests in Ukraine and helping them is a bad Idea?

          Yes

          Or that defending their Interests in Taiwan and helping them is a bad Idea?

          Yes

          Or did you think that the US ousting the Taliban and giving Girls an Education and Future was a bad Idea?

          lol how did that work out

          Or that defending global Shipping from Houthi-Terrorism is a bad Idea?

          You mean defending Israeli shipping from sanctions, in order to support the genocide in occupied Palestine? What kind of answer did you even expect to this one?

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      It’s not a phase, it’s based in reality. Take Vietnam and Iraq for example and the civilian casuilities that came out of that. And oh of course we lied about weapons of mass destruction.

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        Or the many, many coups that the USA was directly or indirectly involved in, like in nearly every South and Central American country (Chile, Argentina, Brazil, Nicaragua, Haiti, Panama, etc), or the “humanitarian intervention” of Yugoslavia, or any entry in that very big list of atrocities they committed.

        Just because there are “worse” countries forcefully imposing their wants, that doesn’t make USA good, something that other poster fails to acknowledge.

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      Some people have to believe they’re the good guy so badly that they’ll kill hundreds of thousands of people to prove it.