• NataliePortland@lemmy.ca
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    8 months ago

    Amazing! I can’t believe after all this time someone finally passed this common sense legislation.

    • mkwt@lemmy.world
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      8 months ago

      The legislation that directed these rules to be written was actually passed by Congress a few years ago.

      It takes quite some time for new federal regulations to be written and enacted, with lengthy public comment periods.

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      8 months ago

      This won’t actually do anything from my understanding though. I thought this wasn’t going to change the private sales between people walking around gun shows from selling to each other, just the vendors in booths who are already required to do back ground checks.

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    8 months ago

    There are some exceptions, including for hobbyists who are selling firearms from their collection and people who sell firearms they inherited.

    This makes the law toothless. People who were selling mainly for a profit just at gun shows were already in violation of the law, just that nobody did anything about it.

    Now they’ll just claim to be hobbyists and can continue as if nothing changed.

    The only way they can make this stick is if they determine that “for profit” means you make more money than you bought it for, rather than intending to make more money that you bought it for, which would be ridiculous.

  • mctoasterson@reddthat.com
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    8 months ago

    This is insane. They are trying to backdoor outlaw private sales without going through Congress. This should be challenged and thrown out.

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      8 months ago

      You can still make the occasional private sale of your used firearm. What you can’t do is make a business out of it.

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        8 months ago

        As usual with these rule changes, the devil is in the details. From what I have seen it is hundreds to pages and creates a framework where there is a lot of discretion and subjectivity on the part of the ATF to charge people under the rule. There is no bright-line rule with regard to the number or frequency of transfers. It gives feds too broad of discretion to selectively apply criminal law. If you don’t believe me, look how ATF and DOJ have handled literally every other firearms related issue under this administration.

  • Tb0n3
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    8 months ago

    The “gun show loophole” is the ability to own a gun without the government knowing you own a gun. In order to actually close this non-existent loophole all guns would have to be registered and registered guns are confiscated guns.

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      8 months ago

      Nah. It’s the ability to buy a new gun without getting a background check. All this means is that it’s a little bit harder for convicted felons to get guns, and a little bit more work is required for private sellers. Very much a worthwhile tradeoff.

      • ryathal
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        8 months ago

        Depending on the felon they likely have far easier access to guns than finding a private sale at a gun show.

      • Tb0n3
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        8 months ago

        And that loophole is private sale. If you required background checks for private sale it would necessitate registration for it to do anything.

    • nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      8 months ago

      The government doesn’t explicitly know if you have a gun or not. You know how many people I know on state medical marijuana programs who have guns and buy new guns? Laws as written that’s a felony but no ones checking, there is no registry. Im pretty pro gun for the lemmy crowd but as far as I can tell the government not keeping a list.

      • Tb0n3
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        8 months ago

        I’m merely stating that for the “gunshow loophole” to be closed it would require all guns to be registered. The loophole is private sales not requiring background checks, but the only way to make that enforceable would be to require all guns to be registered.