• Lexam@lemmy.ca
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    8 months ago

    Hi, yeah. Uh long time listener, first time caller. Thank you for taking my question. Yes, I was wondering does Linux do this? I’ll take my answer off the air. Thanks!

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    Interestingly, the software giant added this check since the Windows 11 24H2 will not boot without these instruction sets, according to a previous report. Though speculative, one would wonder if the company has this extra step in case someone uses bypasses to force the OS to boot with an unsupported CPU.

    Why is the watermark the headline

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      Why is MS targeting specific hardware when windows has historically been a general purpose OS?

      I’m switching my machine to Linux this weekend, even if my chip is supported, who’s to say it will stay supported for the next couple of years.

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        Only targeting new hardware is just a win-win-win for them.

        Hardware partners love it, planned obsolescence is just new sales. Legal departments love it, constantly worse DRM. The development teams like it, less support burden. Marketing loves AI being a core feature.

        They have no competition. There is no downside for them.

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        We’re actually shifting our entire workplace. Fuck this shit - both from a hassle viewpoint and content security requirements

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    I have not dared to test my games with proton on Linux, but if they all work, Windows will be nothing but a VM for me that I use for the exceptions when something doesn’t run under wine. Sheesh.

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        Honestly the site is kind of useless, every time I look at it games that work perfectly out of the box with no changes will practically say that they don’t work at all and vice versa games that don’t work at all will say they run without issue.

        Not to mention the amount of people putting literally fucking hundreds of completely worthless flags that actually do literally nothing whatsoever in the code swearing left right and Center that it does something. I kind of wish that site would just disappear

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            Usually it’s one flag that actually does something, surrounded by about 8 to 9 flags that do absolutely nothing. “flag soup” as developers like to call it. People add all of them at once and so they assume all of them are doing something when in reality only one of them did anything at all

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              I definitely believe that. you’re using filters to cater to your setup, right? Typically if I set those filters I look for the simplest tips and try those. At least half the time it works first try (these are only cases where the game needed tinkering to get working properly)

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            No need, you can just look at the source code and see that that flag is not defined anywhere. It’s not going to do anything it’s not even being parsed it’s just getting ignored. The creator of dxvk complains about this all the time. People piling on completely useless or redundant flags and spreading them everywhere.

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              I dunno man, can’t know unless you try the flags. Might work. It worked for that guy.

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              8 months ago

              Would be a nice feature if the UI could surface those useless flags somehow, assuming that’s possible

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      8 months ago

      Oh, they will likely work. Proton has come quite a long way

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        I haven’t tried linux for like 8 years now and my oly problem was that the games i played back then weren’t supported by linux. I kinda want them to force me to dip into linux again. Last week or so i had to solve a fucking riddle to start my computer to not accidentally accept anything. I hate it so much.

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          I switched to EndeavourOS (no dual boot to fall back on needed since I received a “work laptop” with Windows 11) about a year ago, first time using Linux period, let alone as a daily driver, and all I can say is that it has been a wonderful experience. I will never use Windows on a personal machine again.

          Full disclosure: I have a brother who has been using Linux for a while that helped me through the install process, and basically showed me how to search Google (and the Arch wiki) if I run into any issues, and I have yet to run into anything serious enough to require his attention (which I’m sure he’s thankful for). Small things here or there that I’ve been able to fix myself have gone a long way to helping me grasp (at least a little bit) what’s going on under the hood.

          Additionally, while I don’t have a background in comp sci, I grew up during a time where we needed to know how computers worked beyond “press the button on the screen for the thing to start”, so I was already pretty comfortable with the command line and all that.

          So I had a little help, but I’m not exaggerating when I say that I haven’t needed his direct help since installation.

          As far as games are concerned, most of my PC gaming these days is on my Steam Deck, and even on there I’ve gotten games that Steam labels “unsupported” to work. For example, Dark Souls: Prepare to Die Edition with DSFix works great despite being “unsupported” on Steam.

          As others have said, check out protondb.

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          And that wasn’t enough to force you to try Linux again? Does Billy Gates have to sodomize your dog, or where is the line? lol

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      I made the switch on my daily driver laptop about 4 months ago. I mainly play games like Factorio, Dwarf Fortress and Rimworld, and they all work fine. Only trouble Ive had is with older games like Red Alert. Check out ProtonDB

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        I decided to play Commandos (1998) and it worked as perfectly fine as it would on Windows. It required a fan patch to support higher resolution and 16:9, but that patch worked fine too. The only large issues I’ve experienced so far are with multiplayer. For example, The Finals hadn’t updated their version of Easy Anti-cheat to a version that supported Linux so it didn’t work for a while, but it does now. That might actually be the only game that was an issue for me, and now it isn’t.

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      IME, there’s very little that won’t run. I don’t have a single game in my Steam library that doesn’t run just fine. The most I’ve had to do to run anything was to try different versions of Proton, and that’s as easy as choosing from a dropdown menu.

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        And what if we have a ton of games outside of steam?
        My next pc will probably have linux, and my current windows as vm. I will get them to work hehe

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          Non-steam games can be added to Steam and run from there. There are also other launchers such as Lutris and Heroic that can help you install, manage, and run games from other marketplaces or other non-standard sources.

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            Figured as much, as proton seems to be focused purely on handheld devices needing launchers etc. But thats ok, means they are (hopefully) upstreaming back to wine

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              You’ll still be using proton in Lutris or Bottles most likely, at least for games. Proton is just a compatibility layer. Proton is absolutely not focused on handhelds. It’s just performance improvements for Wine for Windows games.

              You may be thinking of SteamOS.

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          A combination of Lutris, Bottles, and Proton GE has covered me so far. I find Lutris more gaming focused, and I have used Bottles a lot for little windows programs that aren’t really games (as an example, some stuff I have for making TTRPG maps and tokens and stuff that I could probably find alternatives to, but they work fine in Bottles so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ).

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      You can check all your games on ProtonDB. That being said, almost any single player game will work. Same with any multiplayer game that doesn’t insist on poorly implemented anti-cheat

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    That’s weird, the watermark says, “I have altered the deal. Pray I do not alter it further.”

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    God damn. It went down hill fast. I’m actually gonna start looking at distros. Fuck. I just bought a mini pc to install OPNsense on but I think my weekend just drastically shifted.

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    Who knew they were telling the truth after all. When they said Windows 10 would be the last version of Windows.

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        I think what’s interesting about this take, is when they use AI to generate things like new taxes, tax codes and tax laws. The levels of loopery will be insane.

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      It’s probably going to use some stupid-ass system to place them in the next available spot on the HDD and you actually won’t be able to find them without the AI.

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      Can you though? Explorer.exe on windows 11 is already a steaming pile. Why the fuck can’t I disable grouping? If I need to find a specific kind of files in my download directory, it’s way easier for me to sort by size. What isn’t easy is that now it’s grouped by fucking date as well. IDK when I grabbed the last windows iso on my.visualstudio.com, I just know that I have <10 files that are >3GB in my download directory. But noooo now after sorting by size I’ve got to either search though 4 or 5 groups or turn grouping off.

      The IT dept at work has decided that we all will run windows 11, and it’s locked down tighter than I’ve experienced in a long time. Guess who has a VM called “Windows 10 Daily driver” running. Fuck windows 11 and the iso it rode in on.

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          I’m quite aware it is. I usually use the detailed view, so sorting is easy. But going into the menu to turn off grouping only works once for me. If I go into the settings for explorer and chose the “make the current setup default” button (or whatever it is called, I can’t recall right now), then every single other aspect than grouping are preserved. Are you telling me that my issues aren’t caused by windows 11 being a needy little b*tch?

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    Given how Linux support for steam has been going I’ve just started migrating everything and just popping in to windows when I have something that doesn’t work.