• floofloof@lemmy.ca
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    7 months ago

    If you call genocide “politics”, yes. Some of us would say Israel’s ongoing genocidal slaughter of tens of thousands of children and adults is what “gets in the way of pop”.

  • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldM
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    7 months ago

    Sorry, you can’t keep politics aside when Israel is competing.

    I hope they get nul points though.

  • AshMan85@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    Yeah, acts of genocide should over shadow a student music competition, u callus assholes

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    7 months ago

    people have bitched about politics in eurovision since the start. you can predict half the scores based on politics as it is.

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    7 months ago

    The biggest problem of racist libs pretending they are just following rules is that they can’t claim they are just separating politics from the event. Because they broke all those rules to ban Russia.

  • katy ✨@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    7 months ago

    a) politics is always involved in eurovision, especially when it comes to country voting

    b) this is karma for that god awful chicken song winning over eleni foureia in 2018

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    I just watched Israel’s entry, ‘Hurricaine’ by Eden Golan. I realize this is a low bar for Eurovision, but wow is that a shit song.

    The video has some hilarious dancing though. I don’t think it was supposed to be funny, but it’s definitely funny.

    If you must: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJYn09tuPw4 (It’s Eurovision’s YouTube channel if you’re worried about generating revenue for an Israeli company.)

    Edit: Croatia has a song named Rim Tim Tagi Dim by a guy who goes by Baby Lasagna and it’s really funny. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTBrVNZtnys

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      I haven’t heard it at all so I can’t comment, but I do know they were forced to re-write it pretty late in the game to turn down the more obvious anti-palastine political messages in it after several countries threatened to boycott this year. It might have already sucked, haven’t heard either version, but a late re-write changing it can’t have helped.

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          The original was titled “October Rain” (a reference to an October Hamas attack),
          had lyrics like:
          Hours and hours
          and flowers
          Life is no game for the cowards (most I’ve heard felt it in context to be saying screw Palestine, they started it and hide in their holes killing, let’s bomb them all)

          And the Israeli delegate to Eurovision (the board member guy, not the artist) said they were sending a song all Israelis could connect to.

          So yeah, my albeit western interpretation is it was very anti-palastine, pro-israel

          • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldM
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            7 months ago

            Regardless of the interpretation, that’s pretty tone-deaf of them (no pun intended) if they thought that was going to win them the competition.

              • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldM
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                7 months ago

                Very true, although I don’t know that Netanyahu would be doing this if he were a person who believed in the Jewish god. I’m not saying Yaweh is peaceful, but the modern Jewish interpretation of Yaweh doesn’t usually include “he wants you to commit genocide” despite what the Bible might say about the Amalekites or Egyptian children.

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      Did the dancers not get to hear the bpm of the song they were dancing to? And then ballet… What an overproduced collage of disaster.

  • AutoTL;DR@lemmings.worldB
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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    MALMÖ, Sweden — Behind the music, color and high camp, geopolitics has never been far from the surface at the Eurovision Song Contest, be it through subtly political lyrics, boycotts or the outright ban on Russia after it invaded Ukraine two years ago.

    And as thousands of people flock to the coastal city for the event, large protests are taking place over Israel’s participation in the competition, including on Thursday, ahead of Israeli representative Eden Golan’s semi-final performance.

    The decision by the contest’s organizer, the European Broadcasting Union (EBU), to ban Russia after it invaded Ukraine was something she agreed with, she said, adding that she thought it was hypocritical to let Israel compete while it waged war in Gaza.

    While they did not demand a ban for Israel, artists from the U.K., Denmark, Finland, Ireland, Lithuania, Norway, Portugal, San Marino and Switzerland signed a joint statement calling for a cease-fire in Gaza, where almost 35,000 people have been killed since the start of the Israel-Hamas war.

    Having initially balked at the idea, Israeli public broadcaster Kan, which manages the country’s entry, eventually amended the song, now called “Hurricane,” following an intervention from President Isaac Herzog.

    Yair said some artists had tried to skirt the ban on overtly political statements by using more subtle elements in staging or costume, and he said he expected Israel would try in some way to commemorate Hamas’ Oct. 7 attack on the country.


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    • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldM
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      7 months ago

      Worrying about what Muslims might do while Israel is committing a genocide sounds like somewhat misplaced priorities.

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          I don’t “have” to worry about such things because I don’t bother worrying about things that haven’t happened and that I have no evidence will happen.

          “There are lots of extremists here” doesn’t mean “one of them is going to bomb Eurovision.”

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        No, we need to be able to keep two thoughts in our heads at the same time or we are bound to repeat the mistakes. Terror and oppression is terrible regardless of what the purpetrator and the victim are called.