• Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    I think it’s funny that you want to do a poll for context but your question itself is context-dependent. Any quality of any human, inherent or adopted, can be a slur in the proper context.

    Is ‘trans’ a slur when it’s Elliot Page talking about himself? No.

    Is ‘trans’ a slur when a bigot calls someone ‘trans’ to insult them because they think being trans is worthy of contempt? Yes.

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      6 months ago

      This is beautiful. Shutting down the discourse completely by virtue of being inarguably correct. I applaud this comment.

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        6 months ago

        oh no the amazingly useful discussion has been shut down by … examining its premises! Truly a disgrace to online discourse.

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      6 months ago

      You illustrated the point better than I had the energy to do-- I simply don’t care enough to be that eloquent because the majority of what I get is nonsense in return. So instead of wasting my time, I chose to take the lazy route and encourage people to come to a consensus on this one key point so that the point you made would become irrefutable.

      Neither trans nor cis are slurs by default, but anything can be a slur if used in a derogatory manner-- I think some comedian had a bit about this, but I can’t recall who and I’m sure even if I did there’s a good chance someone would give me a nasty label for saying such comedian made a good point…

      But the same people that say trans can be a slur, cannot deny in good faith that cis cannot be a slur. They are both simple classifiers with no basis on prejudice. But some people will still argue they are slurs simply because they are used prominently in derogatory contexts.

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        6 months ago

        That’s not the issue. The issue is that Twitter acts like it is automatically considered a slur, rather than something that is only a slur in certain contexts.

        There’s also the matter of Twitter doing very little about the Nazis on its platform other than giving them a boost.