• specialdealer@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    9
    arrow-down
    18
    ·
    6 months ago

    You keep using that word. It isn’t smuggling, it is forgetting a round of ammo in a bag. Your view on this is extreme. There is nuance in the world…

    • xmunk
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      19
      arrow-down
      5
      ·
      6 months ago

      And this is why drug cartels use cute white women as mules - to skate by on “It’s for personal use” excuses if they get caught.

      • specialdealer@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        7
        arrow-down
        18
        ·
        6 months ago

        Also a really fucking stupid take? It should always be based on the facts of the case, not the color of skin or gender. If a cute white woman is carrying guns and hundreds of rounds of ammo punish away.

        • xmunk
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          10
          arrow-down
          3
          ·
          6 months ago

          Why are you so certain that the people in this case weren’t intentionally smuggling ammunition?

              • specialdealer@lemm.ee
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                5
                arrow-down
                11
                ·
                6 months ago

                Have you ever been to the range? How much ammo did you use? If you wanted to smuggle and sell ammo into another country for money, how much would you bring? Would you bring your wife and book a vacation stay?

            • xmunk
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              6
              arrow-down
              2
              ·
              6 months ago

              Yea, but I don’t have solid evidence either way since I’m not on the ground there - what makes you so certain these people weren’t smugglers? What part of this story has you so willing to go to bat for them?

              • specialdealer@lemm.ee
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                3
                arrow-down
                9
                ·
                edit-2
                6 months ago

                Then you should try reading the article. It describes 4 of the recent cases. In those cases people were not found with guns and had 2, 2, 4, and 20 rounds of ammo respectively.

                Go to the gun range once and you’ll understand that’s not smuggling ammunition for criminal use. That’s an oopsie I forgot that was in that bag.

    • deegeese@sopuli.xyz
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      13
      arrow-down
      5
      ·
      edit-2
      6 months ago

      He packed his own contraband in his own bag and brought it to a foreign country.

      That’s the definition of smuggling.

        • EisFrei@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          14
          arrow-down
          2
          ·
          6 months ago

          The Oxford dictionary definition:

          smuggling noun

          the illegal movement of goods into or out of a country. “cocaine smuggling has increased alarmingly”

          • specialdealer@lemm.ee
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            3
            arrow-down
            12
            ·
            6 months ago

            You see how it says “illegal” there? In smuggling cases there has to be this other thing called “intent” for it to have been illegal.

            If a Mexican gets some codeine at a Mexican pharmacy, forgets it in their bag, and flies into the USA we don’t pay tax money to imprison them for years. We take it, ban them, and send them back.

            Why? Because they are careless, not smugglers.

            • breakingcups@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              12
              arrow-down
              4
              ·
              6 months ago

              The law does not universally require “intent”, I might not intend to speed in my car or fuck a 17 year old, but if it happens I am still responsible.

              • specialdealer@lemm.ee
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                3
                arrow-down
                10
                ·
                edit-2
                6 months ago

                You missed the part where I wrote “in smuggling cases”.

                ETA: you also listed examples that do require intent… like omg I accidentally fucked a 17 year old.

                Or omg my car just drove itself too fast.

                What? Think then type.

            • EisFrei@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              8
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              edit-2
              6 months ago

              But why would you ban them, if they didn’t do anything illegal?

              You basically confirm that it is illegal. Now it’s just about the punishment.