Not sure how to report entire communities, but https://lemm.ee/c/vaccines just opened up and it’s a troll forum for vaccine misinformation.
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It’s up, I can see the content (mostly it’s just complaining about Joe Biden who is clearly a master conspiratist).
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It looks like all of the up votes and all of the comments have been deleted but the actual community is still there as far as I can tell.
Is it just me or does your link not go to a response by the admin?
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This particular community was removed this morning.
I don’t want to go into too many details, but suffice it to say that this is not the first time the responsible users (or, potentially, single user with multiple accounts) has tried to cause disruptions on lemm.ee, so this is why they have been banned from lemm.ee as well.
I know the community is still visible on sh.itjust.works. The reason for this is most likely technical - either the community removal action did not get received properly by that instance, or the fact that one of the mods was a user of that instance has prevented the removal from being acknowledged by sh.itjust.works. Either way, lemm.ee is not hosting this community anymore.
Is there a way to report communities such as this one? One commenter suggested via posts on the community would this be the best way? Is there even a need to report these communities?
You can reach out to admins directly if there is reason to believe that reports are being closed by mods before admins can see them
Thank you for handling this, it’s vital to a growing platform!
Not just a new and growing platform – constant gardening.
Report it, I don’t know about lemm.ee admins but the lemmy.world admins have been good about removing rule breaking stuff amd stuff from bigots amd the kinds of people you mention in your post so I hope the lemm.ee admins are the same
So report it and please include relevant information in the report, don’t just send an empty report because I’ve seen admins asking people not to send empty reports
Its gone now, but I couldn’t find a report button for that community only a block button
Report the posts of any commu ity that violated rules and explain in the report that the entire community breaks the rules
Doesn’t this go to the moderators of that community first?
My understanding is that it goes to both mods and admins simultaneously.
It does, but I think if the community mods mark a report as dealt with then it disappears from the server admin’s notifications too. I could be wrong but pretty sure that’s how I’ve seen it explained. Still worth a try ofc, you just can’t guarantee who sees your report first.
Contacting the admin directly is also an option
For future reference you are correct, theod can mark it resolved and it disappears from the admin q. The admins may have a way to still review after the mod marks it resolved but I’m not sure.
For real. I just had the misfortune of looking at that cesspit for about 45 seconds and I feel like I need a shower.
There is nothing if value there whatsoever.
Thankfully it appears to have been removed. I was ready to pack up and move to another instance if the admins indicated that they were ok with having that hosted here. It would be all downhill for this instance if they allowed it.
That community was horrific and I’m really glad it was dealt with, but this raises some big-picture moderation questions that will need to be answered moving forward. For example: What is the difference between sharing an extreme opinion v.s. sharing misinformation/disinformation on lemm.ee? Unless admins make an executive decision in the meantime, I think it would be useful to have a productive discussion on criteria for content like this because there will hands down be more situations like this down the road.
Yeah. I didn’t realise initially, and wrote a response to a post on there, with multiple links to research (real research, by real scientists). Response was banning for misinformation. Kinda proud to be banned from that cesspool.
Looks like it’s gone. And nothing of value was lost.
It is not gone unfortunately. If you click the link provided by the communitylinkfixerbot in this thread you can see that it still very much exists and is active.
Specifically, this one. https://lemmings.world/comment/817545
Let’s make sure we’re erasing this shitstain of a community instead of shifting our attention and trusting in the system, y’all. 🤘🏼
Clicking that link takes me to another community with a link to the community in question which then gives me an error so I think it actually was dealt with. Can you please try again and see if you get a different result? I would really like to know if it’s still here.
Yup. Was doing my part for clarity and assurance that it was dealt with. I’m also getting an error, so it seems we win this round. 🤘🏼
Yikes
Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using a URL instead of its name, which doesn’t work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: [email protected]
Somebody should make a community called “fake news” and fill it with the Onion style headlines.
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so i’m a bigot, because… i take vaccines??
rip bozo
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Since you are on lemmy.world and that community it also on lemmy.world you would need to address it on that instance. This is the meta community for lemm.ee so I’m sure our admins won’t even review it. I briefly looked at that community though and it looks to be mostly a meme/joke community with an unfortunate name. I doubt if Ruud or anyone would do anything but maybe the mods would agree to rename it if that’s what your concern is.
LMAO what an absolute gem of a community! Very confusing, too, if certain people stumble upon it and don’t understand the point.
Thanks for the link. Joined
Seconded 🤣
Not a fan of some of the rhetoric and sourcing either but why not let them be? I never understood why it’s so important to silence these people if they don’t have any credibility anyways.
If they doxx or dogpile, sure, intervene, but they’re just posting links and having discussions among themselves.
There is absolutely no positive thing about keeping a deliberate disinformation platform alive. They exist to disinform other people, not themselves, and their aim is even more sinister than “just” disinforming about vaccines, because these places serves as fascist pipelines.
We all have intentions and motives behind what we post, don’t we? And we’re all just repeating what we’ve read or heard from other people, right? Very few of us were actually there in the moments things were done or decided. The rest of us are just repeating what we’ve been told, including me and you. We always have downvotes. We can follow or block communities on an individual level. However, deleting content based on your own perspective is silencing someone else’s voice or opinion and goes against basic human rights.
It’s the exact same idea as removing history or destroying literature. The bad is just as valuable as the good and we learn from them both. By censoring what you have determined is bad, you are silencing someone’s voice and permanently stealing someone else’s ability to see the full picture.
That’s very inspiring of you but the instance admin is still the admin and can do whatever he wants because he pays the bills. If the admin says “no banana for scale” then it is.
Well obviously lol, I don’t think anyone here would disagree with that
Edit: I’d appreciate a genuine reply to any of my comments. If you’re downvoting, please consider contributing to the conversation and sharing why you disagree so we can have a productive discussion.
If problematic groups are in echo chambers, they affirm each other. For example many ex-racists said that interacting people outside their hate bubble was the first step to get better.
In addition, wrong information also affects the passersby, who might not be active participants. It takes a lot more resources to correct knowledge with facts than it takes to spam disinformation and it slowly sticks.
So bursting bubbles and purging fake content seems like a viable solution.
What ever happened to “I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it”? I think you need to realize that echo chambers of misinformation are a symptom, not a cause. Fighting the echo chambers but not the root causes of what pushes people there only emboldens them and leads to more polarization.
I think humanity left that behind around this accelerated polarization when they noticed that it takes zero effort to spam what is wrong and magnitudes of limited resources to do the correcting.
And if everyone just defends “yeah it’s ok to spread that even though it’s not right” we see the accelerationism growing.
The effect on internet platforms isn’t important to the 9 % commenting, it’s to the rest who don’t engage. They browse, they see things which aren’t real. Some they dismiss, some they don’t, but they all have an effect on their subconscious.
Of course the root cause should be sorted as well, it’s just that this is also a known issue with massive harm to prevent
And you’d rather haven them join Parlor/Truthsocial/whatever or just spend even more time on uncensored Youtube alternatives where they’re even less likely to encounter opposing opinions?
Isolating people and opinions by driving them into ever smaller circles of influences sounds like something Steve Bannon and his peers would approve most of.
Your argument is irrational and inherently flawed to the point of leaning toward a bad faith origin.
Those communities aren’t popping up here for honest discussion, it’s to increase the reach of disinformation and/or trolling for the lulz.
Engaging with them accomplishes the exact opposite of what you suggest, since they are not here to argue in good faith.
Those are echo chambers
I don’t know if you noticed but you tried to put an opposite idea from your head to be mine
The TL;DR is they think other people are dumb and stupid and can’t think for themselves, and take it upon themselves to police speech online. How can people keep from being deceived if not for the hallowed hall monitor! After all, the people calling for censorship are never wrong about what’s true and what’s not!
Yikes
