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So much for the 1.5° goal…
I’m sure most world governments are ignoring scientists saying “there is still a chance if we do these things” because those things would damage global conglomerate profits. We’re fucked. Unless a lot of us suddenly become ecoterrorists targeting the biggest polluters.
Small changes never were a viable solution, but for a while they could be sold as one. Especially the ones where the consumer became the problem and one to take action (recycling et al.) Only a complete restructuring of society would do much of anything, and now it’s even too late for that because of both the time and the population. Yeah, it’s pessimistic and doomerism, but it’s also reality.
It didn’t need “a complete restructuring of society” – that’s its own kind of cynical disinformation – but rather just (a) ending subsidies for polluting industries (including imposing taxes to compensate for externalities) and (b) zoning reform to cease subsidizing low density.
I’d agree I’m cynical, but it’s just my opinion based on everything I’ve read and seen over decades, not some attempt to brainwash people into inaction. We should absolutely do anything we can to change our ways both individually and overall now that we know the damage we do, but that doesn’t guarantee a fix.
It’s very difficult to discuss the state of things today without being accused of being too negative and now even claimed to be “the problem”. If you want to continue thinking that we could have had a modern society with high living standards and constant growth, then go ahead. It’s simply not realistic to me knowing we have a finite world. The bacteria in the beaker analogy is well known to everyone.
We crossed the line maybe with the industrial revolution, but certainly with learning how to use chemical means to provide far more food than naturally possible (Haber process). I fail to see how we can ever get back to that line now, especially since it and everything else we do is heavily dependent on petroleum that’s also finite. Hence my comment on restructuring society - unlimited growth is not sustainable, yet it’s a cornerstone for us for centuries.
I did think we could fix things long ago, but after a while you begin to see the pattern of hope and promises and realize we’re experts at fooling ourselves.
“We all know what to do, but we don’t know how to get re-elected once we have done it.” – Jean-Claude Juncker
You’ve got this odd situation where people don’t actually realise how bad this is, because if it was really bad then the governments would actually do something about it, but the governments know that if they do what is needed, a lot of people will be substantially poorer, and then they’ll get voted out and replaced with somebody who brings back all the petrol cars and the toxic shit being dumped into rivers.
We’re completely and utterly fucked.
Every month is a record setter so far
In ten years, we’ll all be looking back at how great it was in 2024
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The Key Word is every month was a record setter. May the gods have mercy on us. We’re so fucked
make sure to drive a lot and eat animal products and fly places so we can keep the streak going! 💪😎🔥
Worked for dad, and grandpa, and his grandpa!
The coming generations will be saying the same thing.
We’re only kind of fucked; our kids are proper fucked; their kids are fucked fucked.
I don’t think I agree. Where I stay, we just had a whole month of 47C when ten years ago it used to be around 37C. I’m not saying it will follow the same linear scale but I am saying that there’s only so long humans can survive at these temperatures. For the bulk of the population, surviving at these temperatures means spending electricity which means burning more coal which means accelerating warming.
I don’t see how I myself am going to survive for ten, fifteen years when my country can no longer grow wheat or vegetables, leave alone future kids of mine.
Which is one of the reasons I’m not having children.
It’s one of the MAIN reasons I’m not having children.
Gather up as much plastic garbage as you can and burn it all in your backyard … get your neighbour to join in and have a neighbourhood bonfire … plastic only! … tires work great too because they last longer and burn stronger.
That’s pretty much the ballgame, folks. Try to move somewhere where it’s always cold and in a decade or two you may still be alive.
First of many.
I’ll fuckin do it again.
“This is not fine.”
🎶 The world, the world, the world is on fire. 🎶
We don’t need no water…
Let the mother fucker burn 🔥🔥🔥
problem here is the motherfucker in this case is us
if we don’t burn the real motherfuckers in time.
🤞I hope it’s a good record🤞I hope it’s a good record-- aw.
We ded
Well, what do you expect if an unintentional Geo Engineering experiment get’s shut down one day to the other. The Oceans are running a fever because of that…temps have jumped 2-3°C in just 3 years. More heat, more humidity, more dark clouds, even more energy - more temperature, less Co2 Absorption… But it would be great, if we could stop all that doom and gloom stuff. There’s still quite a lot of positive stuff happening.
Edit: To clarify, I’m talking about the IMO (International Maritime Organization) lowering the sulfur in crude oil for ships from 3% allowed to 0,5% in 2020 and the resulting “darker” clouds, due to sulfur “binding” water molecules. This in term lead to about 80% more energy from the sun that got “transferred” in to the atmosphere and the oceans, instead of being reflected with “white” clouds.
https://www.carbonbrief.org/analysis-how-low-sulphur-shipping-rules-are-affecting-global-warming/ https://phys.org/news/2024-05-sulfur-content-shipping-fuel-maritime.html https://egusphere.copernicus.org/preprints/2024/egusphere-2024-1428/ https://www.sciencemediacentre.org/expert-reaction-to-sulphur-reductions-in-shipping-fuel-and-increased-maritime-warming/
Get used to it.
We’re #1!
