• IninewCrow
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    1298 days ago

    Meanwhile, they have an orange beanbag presidential hopeful spilling the beans to the whoever around the world and he gets millions of dollars of support, literal legal immunity from anything and 1/3 of the country want him to become their Cheeto leader in Mountain Dew.

    • @[email protected]
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      478 days ago

      That’s because that orange beanbag seated three associate justices of the Supreme Court, 54 judges for the courts of appeals, 174 district court judges, and three judges for the United States Court of International Trade.

      Even worse, citizens want to let him do it again.

      • @[email protected]
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        28 days ago

        To be fair, Biden has seated almost as many judges in his term, so that has balanced out at the lower levels. With the very important exception of the Supreme Court.

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          There’s also the important point of Biden not committing crimes, like those that the commenter mentioned, and having those charges heard by one of his own appointed judges. Appeals from Trump’s other cases can potentially end up with one of his appointed appeals court judges, or ultimately be heard by the newly conservative Supreme Court, as you pointed out.

          I mentioned it because that’s the notable difference between Assange’s and Trump’s ability to live above the law.

    • Track_Shovel
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      208 days ago

      Please step into my secure toilet to see the nation’s secrets.

      I still can’t believe that fucking happened and people just go on ignoring it

    • @[email protected]
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      37 days ago

      Hey, to the positive, less than 1/3 of the country. First, if you look at vote numbers versus total population in previous elections, as well factoring in as the total population including those that can’t vote for various reasons. Then, factor in that the party of shit nazis is disenfranchising remaining R voters at lightning speed, the party is massively in debt in some states and basically ceasing to exist, more of the insurrectionists continue to go to prison, the rest of the crazies end up doing something stupid and get arrested…

      Things are looking up as that fraction heads towards 1/4 and hopefully they’ll go back into their stinky rotting little hole where they belong. Their Russian troll daddies just make the presence look larger and more present than they really are.

  • @xmunk
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    Good for him - he’s less innocent than folks like Chelsea Manning or Edward Snowden but a heavy prosecution of him would definitely have a chilling effect on whistle-blowers. Did he release things at politically convenient times? Yes. Should that be illegal? Fuck no.

    • @[email protected]
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      338 days ago

      2016 Assange was a very different person than who he was in 2009. The espionage charges relating to the Chelsea Manning leaks were always bogus, but his involvement with the Trump campaign solidified him as a huge asshole in my mind.

      https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/11/14/563996442/donald-trump-jr-had-direct-contact-with-wikileaks-during-campaign

      Even back then, WikiLeaks was telling trump to claim the election was rigged and stolen. These are not the actions of a whistleblower, and it’s clear he was not a whistleblower (or working with whistleblowers) during this period and likely a mouthpiece for Russia to sow division in the US.

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      88 days ago

      but a heavy prosecution of him would definitely have a chilling effect on whistle-blowers

      As if the last decade plus of his life were not enough for that. Better than a life sentence, yeah.

  • @[email protected]
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    658 days ago

    Legendary. That’s him cleared in Sweden, UK, and the US. Apparently they’re considering letting him return to Australia (his home country) as well. Godspeed, Assange!

  • Flying Squid
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    This is a real win for Biden. Despite all of Trump’s praise for Wikileaks, he did nothing about Assange.

    Of course, this wouldn’t have happened if it wasn’t an election year, but it’s still a win.

    • @xmunk
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      In my opinion, absolutely. His legal exile lasted far too long… I think most people won’t even know this happened unless the late night shows pick it up.

      • Flying Squid
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        I wonder how many people even remember who he is without a refresher at this point. The general public’s memory is short.

      • androogee (they/she)
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        This shit is so frustrating.

        YOU apathetic fuckers don’t PAY ATTENTION when it’s not an election year.

        Stuff is still happening when you aren’t looking at it.

  • @[email protected]
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    257 days ago

    I’m glad he is finally free and I’m always thankful to anyone who exposes war crimes and whistleblowers.

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    If Assange wasn’t in US territory when revealed classified information, why is he being judged by the US?

    Was not the US should be judging the one/s who filtered the information and not who publish it?

    • @[email protected]
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      128 days ago

      Anyone involved in a crime committed on US soil can be charged with the crime.

      Do you suppose hacking your computer should be legal provided the hacker is in Russia?

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        Assange personally hacked the alleged computer in US soil? Cos as I see it he published classified information from outside the US so my question would be, you can be judged for publish classified information of the US even if you are not a US citizen? As far as I know the person/s accountable for the crime are ones who probably right now are working for the US govt…

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          The US alleges that Assange was part of a conspiracy to hack computers in the US, ie he was not just a passive receiver, he was involved in planning the hack.

          The superseding indictment alleges that Assange was complicit with Chelsea Manning, a former intelligence analyst in the U.S. Army, in unlawfully obtaining and disclosing classified documents related to the national defense.  Specifically, the superseding indictment alleges that Assange  conspired with Manning;  obtained from Manning and aided and abetted her in obtaining classified information

    • @[email protected]
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      48 days ago

      US courts can still try him in absentia, i.e. if he’s not present in the courtroom.

      If he’s in a country with an extradition treaty with the US, e.g. the UK, he can be extradited to the US for the trial or with a conviction.

      • @[email protected]
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        No, the SCOTUS has made clear that you cannot be tried in abstentia.

        This case requires us to decide whether Federal Rule of Criminal Procedure 43 permits the trial in absentia of a defendant who absconds prior to trial and is absent at its beginning. We hold that it does not.

  • Autonomous User
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    Great seeing far more sensible comments here compared with c/technology

    Always suprising to see more on a whistle blower than the guys that actually did the war crime.