Russia has had dramatic political influence in this country for a very long time now
Sure, but NOWHERE near as much or as bad as under-regulated capitalism, which has taken over the entire government and caused the needless deaths of tens if not hundreds of millions in the US alone, billions worldwide.
And that’s not even counting the even greater numbers that it has left alive but perpetually struggling and suffering!
That’s right, there were no flaws in the political system invented 250 years ago and only outside actors in the last 20 years led to a conservative party vs a fascist party.
That’s kind of my point. The US is the problem with our political system. Russia is a factor, but they exacerbated division that was already present. It’s actually ridiculous to try and frame it as a problem that wouldn’t have appeared if Russia stayed out of our business.
Russia is neither winning nor is their disinformation campaigns that successful. This is because despite their best efforts, when they needed their propaganda to work the most, it backfired and the west is more united than ever. Not only that but the country is basically wrecked due to the invasion of Ukraine
Those parties aren’t gaining ground because of Russia. Russia is definitely an influence, but they’re not the reason these parties are winning. They’re gaining ground because the establishment parties are failing people and these parties are the only alternative they have. We’ve seen such parties win in Italy, Switzerland, Sweden, Finland, etc but nothing really changed foreign policy wise.
The swing right is a rejection of globalism by the people more than Russia being some amazing propaganda source. Blaming Russia absolves the globalists from responsibility though.
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Russia hasn’t done nearly as much damage as the capitalist class in America has.
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Nah. Absolutely overhyped.
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My dude I’m far more worried about America’s actual Nazis. Russia is just a distraction.
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Yeah, they’ve been stirring up the local Fascists who are a much bigger problem.
Sure, but NOWHERE near as much or as bad as under-regulated capitalism, which has taken over the entire government and caused the needless deaths of tens if not hundreds of millions in the US alone, billions worldwide.
And that’s not even counting the even greater numbers that it has left alive but perpetually struggling and suffering!
Do we really need to debate which country’s Nazis are the worst?
Putinism vs bipartisan right debate on lemmy?
You give Russia too much credit.
Europe and USA put themselves on this situation all by their own stupidity.
Also greed
That’s right, there were no flaws in the political system invented 250 years ago and only outside actors in the last 20 years led to a conservative party vs a fascist party.
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That’s kind of my point. The US is the problem with our political system. Russia is a factor, but they exacerbated division that was already present. It’s actually ridiculous to try and frame it as a problem that wouldn’t have appeared if Russia stayed out of our business.
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If that’s the case, then my bad. I may have read into your comment too much.
Russia is neither winning nor is their disinformation campaigns that successful. This is because despite their best efforts, when they needed their propaganda to work the most, it backfired and the west is more united than ever. Not only that but the country is basically wrecked due to the invasion of Ukraine
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Russia isn’t exactly benefiting from its investments is the point I’m making
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Those parties aren’t gaining ground because of Russia. Russia is definitely an influence, but they’re not the reason these parties are winning. They’re gaining ground because the establishment parties are failing people and these parties are the only alternative they have. We’ve seen such parties win in Italy, Switzerland, Sweden, Finland, etc but nothing really changed foreign policy wise.
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In terms of Russian interests? Pretty much
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If he is Russian asset, can I sell his ass?
He is corporate asset. A tool to strengthen neofeudalism.
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A Putin’s puppet. Yes.
Holy fuckin jingoism
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Criticizing a specific country isn’t jingoism. JFC learn what words mean.
Lol
What? Modern Russia exists for 33 years. 80 years ago certain parlamentary union was so upset at nazis, that it destroyed them.
Also 80 years ago for that parlamentary union the lefter politician was - the better. For Putin it’s opposite.
The swing right is a rejection of globalism by the people more than Russia being some amazing propaganda source. Blaming Russia absolves the globalists from responsibility though.
(((Globalism))), right?