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    [Ghislaine] Maxwell recruited Giuffre at Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago club in Florida in 2000

    Let’s return the focus to this sentence

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    The right loves to talk about this global pedo ring they claim to hate so much, but they don’t realize its all their leaders and members who are the ones involved.

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      Deflection. Accuse the opposition of what you’re guilty of so when they accuse you of the same, people will be fatigued of hearing about it.

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    Even if he, hypothetically, was the sickest fuck to ever step foot on Epstein’s island, he is an American oligarch that will most likely never see any repercussions, since he has the money, like real money to actually make a difference, and influence politically and celebrity wise. So even the best funded Justice department has an annual budget that this guy can donate at a whim to ensure his freedom. His Starlink is being used by Ukraine during this war, so he even has leverage on an American ally. No he is safe as Rain

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      since he has the money, like real money to actually make a difference, and influence politically and celebrity wise

      I agree, but would replace specific category of celebrities with mass media in general.

      Starlink is being used by Ukraine during this war

      There’s no substitute for the low ping times of modern hardware in LEO. Elon is evil. But he’s not stupid. As a user myself I think Starlink is a fantastic product, though in a physical package designed by a teenager.

      If he’d not fucked around with Twitter he’d have been strongly positioned on either end of the communications industry, positioned to be even more powerful than he is. But, he’s gone for a shorter term play at an-cap fascism.

      No he is safe as Rain

      A perception of justice is prerequisite to a human life of dignity. When society’s systems of accountability are broken humans find another way. Sometimes a young man nearly assassinates an ex-President. Sometimes no one cares until researching for the history books.

      Have faith. One way or another we’ll get the bastard. Or, maybe we’ll get lucky: He’ll take some more psychedelics and turn into a humanitarian.

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        But, he’s gone for a shorter term play at an-cap fascism.

        Lmfao, the idea that apartheid boy ever had any ideas for himself other than becoming white supremacist super king is as fucking laughable as the idea that he contributed anything to any company he has ever run other than money, or that any of the the work he exploits others for couldn’t have been achieved any other way…

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        It is insane what Elon has achieved and what potential he has for the good or bad of humanity. I wonder how the pages of history will be written

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            Right? The fact that people are still convinced he’s some genius mastermind that people only hate because of what he did to twitter is fucking mind blowing.

            If nothing else though, it goes to show just how well the propaganda is working…

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    X (the website formerly known as Twitter) is reportedly stonewalling subpoena requests related to a legal case involving dead financier and sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein. Why? Nobody knows, but it sure is weird.

    According to Business Insider, the social media platform refuses to give up information about one of the accounts linked to an Epstein accuser, a woman named Rina Oh Amen. The legal case is otherwise unrelated to the platform itself, instead it involves a spat between Oh Amen and another Epstein accuser, the more well-known Virginia Giuffre.

    In court filings and public statements, each has accused the other of acting as one of Epstein’s recruiters rather than a true victim.

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    I’m always on the fence with these subpoena resistance cases.

    On the one hand, it’s Twitter, Elon, and Epstein related. Fuck all of them.

    On the other hand, I don’t think that businesses should just blindly turn over information because the DOJ managed to find a judge that would rubber stamp a subpoena. Obviously that’s not every subpoena, or even likely a large number of them in the grand scheme, but it happening even once is too much to take it at face value being justified.

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      This subpoena has nothing to do with the DOJ. This subpoena was issued as part of discovery in the civil defamation case between the two women in the article

      Most likely what I think is happening here is X literally does not have the records that are being subpoenaed, because why keep records when you’re trying to destroy a business?

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      For the life of me I don’t understand your argument here. You’re basically advocating for the destruction of the justice system? So if I try to sue a company for say bodily injury or something they should be able to hide all the evidence? Good lord don’t corporations have enough power as is? Why give them more?

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        I think they’re saying Elon sucks and be wary of trusting the government.

        The fed’s anti-encryption stance comes to mind. “We need backdoors in your messaging apps but it’s just to protect the children!

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          Both of these have been true for a looong time. Any step to concede this point is complicit.

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            Any step to concede this point is complicit.

            Hmm, I don’t take your point. What do you mean, please?

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            You seem to have a problem with reading comprehension buddy. Nothing in this entire thread is even remotely close to defending Epstein or his accomplices.

            The closest it gets is demanding that the Constitutional rights of US citizens actually be acknowledged and defended instead of just allowing the government to ignore them because of some bullshit “think of the kids” excuse which is never about the kids, it’s always been about giving the police more excuses to arrest anyone they want. Usually those in the way of the rich and powerful, or a group they can then point to and classify as a criminal to justify treating them as less worthy of respect or basic rights.

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              it’s always been about giving the police more excuses to arrest anyone they want. Usually those in the way of the rich and powerful, or a group they can then point to and classify as a criminal

              Can you point to any person or group of persons this has happened to?

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                Poor people, gay people, black people, Irish immigrants, Italian immigrants, Mexican immigrants, Catholics, Muslims

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    Let’s see, we know they project and he called a guy “pedo guy” on twitshit. I wonder what this has to do with that.

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      The article says they don’t know why there is this resistance. It’s just speculation. So it could be Elon.

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        You may be right. But we don’t know that for sure. We can assume it because it makes throwing shit at Elon easier, and believe me I’m happy to throw shit at him, but I want it to be accurate. More importantly that wasn’t the context of most comments. They are the standard ‘call your opponent a pedophile’ tactic that the right wing lazy wankers use. Why? Because who would defend someone accused of being a pedophile? It takes out the person you’re against and their defenders. Unfortunately this tactic if throwing an accusations of pedophilia at the drop of a hat lessens the impact of legitimate accusations.