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    A general rule is if it has pores instead of gills, you’re probably in the clear.

    Except for that one in Europe, that shit will megadeath you.

    In all seriousness, the general rule I’ve heard for foraging wild unknown things is:

    • cut it open and rub it on your skin, wait an hour, if it gives you a reaction, stop here.
    • touch it to your lips, wait a while, if it gives you a reaction, stop here
    • touch it to your tongue, wait a while, if it gives you a reaction, stop here
    • chew a bit and spit it out, wait a while, if it gives you a reaction, stop here
    • swallow a small amount, wait a few hours, if it gives you discomfort, stop here
    • if you’ve made it this far, it’s likely ok, do so at your own risk tolerance

    Roots are generally OK, particularly if you have access to double boil them.

    For mushrooms:

    • pores are generally safer than gills
    • don’t eat it if it’s bioluminescent
    • don’t eat if it oxidizes quickly when you cut it open
    • don’t eat it if it bruises blue or red
    • learn how to detect what a bolete is. Boletes are generally safe, unless it breaks one of the rules above
    • Slime: Just say no.
    • make sure there’s not a mushroom growing on your mushroom. Double the mushroom is not double the fun.
    • learn what a destroying angel looks like, even when it’s young. Appreciate it from a distance, but give that fucker 5 feet of space at all times.

    I am by no means an expert. I’m just a rando guy from Appalachia with some wild ass Russian buds and we do some funky shit down here. Take everything I say with as much trust as you give to anyone on the Internet.

    When in doubt, take it to an expert and even then, consume at your own risk tolerance.

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      That’s interesting, my general rule for foraging wild unknown things is: don’t.

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      There was a guy a few years ago who tried to live off grid. He died, having left behind a journal detailing his final days. In it, he logged the exact process you outlined above for various things he foraged, which included wild potato seeds. Turns out those things pass all the above tests, but contain a deadly neurotoxin that builds up over time (that even modern science didn’t really know about). Poor guy starved because he was too weak to even crawl.

      nature be scary fellow humans. Be careful out there.

      https://www.theverge.com/2013/9/13/4726722/into-the-wild-author-reveals-chris-mccandless-cause-of-death

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        He also wandered into the Alaskan wilderness with basically just a sack of rice and a .22lr rifle.

        He was a a couple miles from safety the entire time, but did not buy a map so believed he was stranded when the river rose and cut off the main trail. But there was another trail with a raised cable crossing over the river a few miles upstream.

        He was totally unprepared and essentially just committed extended suicide. The fact that he remembered some basic tips from a Boy Scout handbook doesn’t mean he was an expert. Kid was an idiot who got in way over his head.

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        That some guy ISNT JUST ANY GUY! 😤

        • Documentaries were made about him
        • A very successful movie was made about him “Into the wild”
        • Countless Youtubers keep making videos about him; Thoughty2 made a very good video about him…
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          The point of my comment was to highlight that even if you follow all the good advice, there’s still a chance you discover some new things that will kill you.

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            Cool… I also forgot to mention all the books written about him… 😅

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              Eh, it’s sort of a tradition at this point. You just win some and lose some (and as is quite obvious the outliers of both categories are really out there!

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      For mushrooms the only good advice is, if you don’t know what you are doing, don’t go foraging for mushrooms. Rules and guidelines that apply for one region might not work for another. The risk reward never works out if you’re inexperienced. You either get a tasty treat or incurable certain death. It’s not a great gamble.

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          If you’re even half competent, you could (not recommended) actually do some basic electrical work at home and come out of it alive and well after a few youtube videos and some reasonable precautions. I can’t same the same about mushroom foraging.

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        The people who die from death cap mushrooms here (Canberra, Australia) all learnt about mushrooms in another country, where death caps don’t grow, but an edible mushroom that looks just like them does

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      Here’s a general rule for foraging mushrooms; don’t use “general rules”.

      Also; “don’t eat it if it bruises blue”, you’ll miss out on all the fun ones with this advice.

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        Yeah, atleast here in northern part of europe we have multiple shrooms that bruise blue and are still edible. I recomend getting a mushroom foraging guide book of your area, and first getting familiar with all the ones that can seriously hurt you.

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          Books pah! We didn’t take books the last time I went mushroom foraging! Books are for cowards! We took a senior fellow from the University of London who specialised in mycology, instead.

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        the blue ones can be the funnest ones

        though perhaps not when you’re wildly unprepared for the things they will show you (and also, though I have yet to try them myself, probably not the best for dinner since everyone says they taste like shit)

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      don’t eat it if it bruises blue

      Or do if you’re up for an interesting time and it passes the test above. Eat about three grams for some nice sights and 6 before sitting in a dark, cool room to meet something unknown

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        If it bruises blue, cut off a very thin slice from the center of the stalk and put it on agar until it creates mycellium. There’s some other stuff you need after that which I’ll be happy to help you with.

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        I don’t think there are any harmful mushrooms that bruise blue but would love for an expert to chime in here

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          I dunno my roommate was weeping about the shadows coming for him and said he couldn’t leave the bed for days and didn’t know why we hadn’t heard the screaming… So, like, a little harmful.

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      I am by no means an expert. I’m just a rando guy from Appalachia with some wild ass Russian buds and we do some funky shit down here. Take everything I say with as much trust as you give to anyone on the Internet.

      Best disclaimer ever.

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      you’re probably in the clear. Except for that one

      Looks like the meme is accurate

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      Do you mean ‘pores instead of gills’ ? I think all mushrooms produce spores, no?

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      Interesting, but nature is a kaleidoscope and evolution isn’t linear. Mushroom rules like this tend to be super regional and even then, take it with a grain of salt.

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      Pretty sure those general rules are given to the SAS for when dropped behind enemy lines in a jungle setting. I think I heard it from a Ray Mears book.

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      No clue if you have any idea what you’re talking about but appreciate the Information dump. If I’m ever near death from hunger but surrounded by forest floor growths I’ll try to remember this.

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      Roots might be safe if you can double boil them??? Jesus christ, I guess I’m never touching wild mushrooms ever.

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      Except for that one in Europe

      Joke, but poisonous mushrooms here are either quite distinct (lol Dickfuss) or give you a mild stomache ache. Well, except the section with mushrooms that look like a poisonous variant but aren’t.

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      All that to find whether a random plant will poison you

      Animals are so much easier: is it an animal? It’s good to eat

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          Sure. Go for healthy animals. There are also several nasty viruses that have passed from animals to the humans who ate them. But shit happens. Given a random plant or a random animal, I’ll take the animal