Democratic presidential nominee Kamala Harris stopped her fans from getting too wild with their Trump bashing at a campaign rally in Wisconsin on Wednesday.

On the second day of her battleground blitz with running mate Tim Walz, when she got to the point in her now-familiar stump speech about her days prosecuting predators, fraudsters and scammers, supporters, like those in Philadelphia on Tuesday, were just starting to chant “lock him up” when Harris deviated from the script.

“Well, hold on,” she said, holding out her hand as if to placate the crowd in Eau Claire, Wisc. “You know what, the courts are going to handle that part of it. What we’re gonna do is beat him in November.”

  • @[email protected]
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    1201 month ago

    Rolling my fucking eyes at the notion that it is ‘Trumpian’ to call for someone to be locked up when they have publicly incited an attack on Congress to disrupt an election.

    • The Snark Urge
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      901 month ago

      It’s not how the rule of law works. Presidents don’t lock people up*, and that’s what’s “Trumpian” about it. That’s quite clear to me.

      To equivocate however, the idea that the courts are currently equipped to deliver justice is laughable. Judge Cannon is a clear partisan with too little judicial experience to handle a case like his. The supreme court has been ratfucked since god knows when. I would love to hear her say more about the need for judicial reforms and strengthening the plumbing of our democracy against when we inevitably have to flush another turd this size.

      *Except obviously Gitmo needs to be stopped finally, ffs

      • @[email protected]
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        91 month ago

        Wait, can Trump get sent there first? After he dies of “suicide” in prison like his pal Epstein, then we can close it down.

        • The Snark Urge
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          141 month ago

          As much as I harbour for him the most intense ill will it is possible for a sane man to keep, I am not satisfied that authoritarianism can be cured with more of the same.

          • @[email protected]
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            51 month ago

            Wait so can this be like the stocks of yore? We can all throw old food and garbage at him while he gabbles at us in his chains?

    • @[email protected]
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      641 month ago

      I think they mean the action of shouting it at a political rally to drive emotion, fear, and anger. Very trumpian.

    • @Voroxpete
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      281 month ago

      Calling for someone who commits crimes to be locked up is absolutely fine and good.

      Calling on a political leader to make that happen is not.

      “Lock him/her up” has a very specific history in this context. It was Trump promising that as president he would pervert the normal course of justice to attack his political opponents. That’s how dictatorships work, not democracies.

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    931 month ago

    I just heard her speak for the first time today.

    Better than Joe, but I don’t think she’s Obama tier. That man was king of the mic.

    • @[email protected]
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      521 month ago

      I’ll respectfully disagree and agree at the same time.

      2008 Obama? Hell yeah. But 2012 Obama was kind of a slow speaker. His debates against Romney were not shoe-ins. He wasn’t as top tier amin his second term as he was in his first.

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        581 month ago

        I uhhhhhhh… never really understood uhhhhhhhh… why Obama uhhhhhhhh… was uhhhhhhh… considered such a great orator. Sure he uhhhhhhh… could uhhhhhhh… clearly communicate a thought, but uhhhhhhh… it fucking took a while to uhhhhhhhh… get it out of his mouth.

        • @[email protected]
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          301 month ago

          This part is true. I think he just had a lot of charisma with it overall. Also, we had Bush Jr to compare him to, which makes anyone competent sound like a genius.

          • @vaultdweller013
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            -31 month ago

            Hey dont insult me like that, I could make Bush look good on one of my bad days. I accidently started a fight in ny friend group yesterday cause I was playing CK2 and said the word gypsy.

        • @[email protected]
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          211 month ago

          Thank you, dude was the William Shatner of Uh. Now go watch Robert Kennedy announce the death of MLK. Or read one of Lincoln’s speeches, or Cesar’s. There were a lot of great speakers out their of varying ideologies. Its definitely a talent that is sorely needed in a lot of politics today.

          • worldwidewave
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            291 month ago

            I thought that “apes together strong” was powerful, but I’m not sure if I’d put him up there with Lincoln

          • @[email protected]
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            221 month ago

            Speeches don’t include unintentional parts like “uh”. And there was no recording of Caesar speaking.

            • @eestileib
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              171 month ago

              Caesar also would shout one line at a time and wait for people to repeat it for the people father away. I’m sure it was awesome live, but an audio recording would sound very strange to a modern listener.

              • @[email protected]
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                81 month ago

                That’s pretty cool, and it makes sense. I always wondered how people heard speakers back in the day. Thank you

                • @eestileib
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                  101 month ago

                  A classical grammatical rule says: “A sentence must express a complete thought, be able to be written down, and speakable in one breath,” which makes a hell of a lot more sense once you get the context of oration.

              • @[email protected]
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                11 month ago

                I went to a Bernie rally once and it was somewhat like that. Not with people repeating lines for the whole auditorium, of course, but lots of saying one line and then pause for applause.

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          101 month ago

          I always have to laugh at people who think him going over what he’s going to say before it comes out of his lips as he’s not good at speech.

          Homie, he’s actually THINKING before he speaks. I know that might sound weird, but I for one think MORE people need to follow that way of talking.

      • partial_accumen
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        151 month ago

        His debates against Romney were not shoe-ins.

        I remember very few quotes from Presidential or Vice Presidential debates. However Obama vs Romney had one of the most memorable ones:

        “Please proceed, Governor.”

    • @[email protected]
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      211 month ago

      Everyone wondered what Harris had been doing as VP. It’s this. Preparing to be president.

      The debate schedule was the key. One at the beginning and one near the end. If Biden had killed the first debate like he did with Paul Ryan, he’s the guy. If not, Harris is ready and waiting.

      I honestly think the race was never as bleak as it seemed. The Dems know what’s at stake and have finally woken up.

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          201 month ago

          Yeah Harris may have been waiting for her shot, and she’s getting my vote absolutely, but this wasn’t some dem moonshot to beat Trump. I voted for Biden against Trump. I’d do it again. But there’s many people I would have rather had as our president as a dem voter. I think Kamala will do great, and I’m glad she’s up for the nomination, but this was a moment of a good president realizing he’d do better for America by stepping down, not some ingenious dem plan to keep the White House.

        • @[email protected]
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          41 month ago

          They finally seem to not be tap dancing on their own dicks.

          Tampon Tim was a good choice. He’s already pwned Corporal Couchfucker from the Public Affairs office.

      • @[email protected]
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        31 month ago

        I honestly think thatbthisbwas the plan all along. Biden pretending to go for round two and then last second dropping out and stepping aside for Harris

        • @[email protected]
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          11 month ago

          Agree. Ultimate 4d chess when Trump had been aiming all his energy at Biden since b4 the corrupt Ukraine call. Switching to Harris 100 days out is genius.

    • @[email protected]
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      61 month ago

      Bill Clinton was also a decent orator. He visited Ireland while I was in college and I went to see him speak in the centre of Dublin. Charisma just oozed from the guy.

      Reagan was also good on the mic in bouts before his mental decline. The balloon pop “missed me” was God tier.

      • @[email protected]
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        121 month ago

        Ha! In fairness though, when you have one side being weird with the whole “lock her up” cult chant nonsense and another saying “look, we’ll leave this to the courts”, well it’s a much better look. More “presidential”.

  • @[email protected]
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    371 month ago

    Well, the courts are obviously not going to handle that part of it. Still, I think it’s wise to show that the Democratic side of the aisle takes the high ground.

    • @[email protected]
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      81 month ago

      Still, I think it’s wise to show that the Democratic side of the aisle takes the high ground.

      Standing firm in their opposition to prosecuting the rich and powerful.

    • @Lucidlethargy
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      51 month ago

      Oof, just like Hillary always said? I don’t know about this…

  • rhythmisaprancer
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    301 month ago

    I don’t like that “Trumpian” is a thing, but it is, and at this point in time, I appreciate her take. Vote.

    • @[email protected]
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      41 month ago

      Looks like it’s here to stay in our politics, and that’s not a good thing.

      What I do find amusing is that conservative forums are suddenly saying we should focus on the issues. OK, let’s talk about Project 2025 (“no, not like that!”).

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